5 TSA employees removed from duty at RSW

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    If safety wasn't jeopardized then why should anyone be fired? Seems like a defense against unlawful acts by an employer.

    I think what TSA is saying is that TSA screening procedures adds nothing to traveler safety.
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  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  3. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    There was one story that said TSA has stopped the random gropings. If so, why bother to punish these screeners for not following an abandoned policy.
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    WFTX Fox 4: Congressman accuses TSA of "covering up" RSW firings: 38 TSA employees recommended for suspension, 5 for termination

  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    No way do I believe that policy has been abandoned.
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  6. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Looks like Mica is turning up the heat. Still, there are some AFSers who simply don't get it.

  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    WINK: Not clear what, if any, punishment TSA boss will face

  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Fox 4 WFTX: TSA workers challenging suspensions at RSW airport

  12. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Imagine that. Isn't this what we said would happen when Pervole allowed them to unionize?
  13. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Yes, and they also may have a point. And Mica, on this one: Mass firings, scandal w/no info, smells like a cover-up of a worse scandal than failing to grope, if you ask me.
  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Now the slackers are blaming one another ...

    NBC 2: TSA investigation: Fired workers fight back

  15. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I think without a specific order informing them to not do this part of the screening process (such as "Hey, don't do the random screening today", etc), then this falls flat as a defense. This has been part of the process for years, and it is specifically told to TSOs as part of the process of operating the checkpoint. A case can be made that the STSO was not aware that the actual procedures were not being done, and they should be disciplined on that basis, but then the TSOs involved should be disciplined as well for failing to follow the process. The onus should be on the individuals as well as the leadership, but in my opinion, the individuals carry a bit larger share of the blame because this is not new - it didn't start yesterday, and it has been taught as part of the basics for the checkpoint operation for years. The STSOs should be counselled for failing to make certain that the SOP was followed, but this is a hard sell - did the TSOs state that they were actually doing the screening? Did the STSO actually give orders countermanding the SOP? There is too much info missing from this story to make a valid determination of where the root blame lies, and any of us that were in the military understand that as the STSO/supervisory member, if it is messed up, it always falls on you in the end regardless of what happens to the others.
  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I assume the S in STSO means supervisor. If so any supervisor not knowing what his charges are doing, or not doing, should be fired first then the rest of the crew along with them. In this case a FSD, AFSD, TSM, STSO, LTSO, and any number of TSO's seem to not know what to do or who was doing what. Fire them all!

    But the real question is, TSA claims that safety was not compromised in any way so why should any form of corrective action be needed? Sounds more like procedure for procedures sake and not for assuring safety. If that's the case then those people making up useless procedures need to be fired, starting with the most useless of them all, Pistole.

    Maybe TSA should look for ways to do things usefull, like getting rid of the TSA thieves, druggies, perverts and other criminal groups although I realize that would decimate the employee pool of TSA. Then TSA can start screening those people who have access to the secure areas without benefit of any screening and present the greatest risk to aviation security.

    For an agency to be so totally stupid to not do these things demonstrate a clear lack of vision and competence.
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  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I've been saying that for a while - if a TSA employee is caught by an outside agency while violating any law, then the entire shift at that checkpoint/position including supervisor should be terminated for failing to detect the behavior before the outside agency caught it.

    If a TSA employee can't be trusted to turn in their co-workers for misbehaving, then they can't be trusted at all.

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