A good example of why not to vent your ire at specific individuals

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Mike, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Some of you who want to publish addresses, etc., of TSA employees and turn their lives upside down would be well advised to read this article and watch these videos.

    There's a first amendment issue here, and I suspect Barrett Brown will not be convicted (or will prevail on appeal). In the meantime, he's cooling his heels in jail.

    Just keep in mind that it's a fine line between discussing a douche-bag and telling that douche-bag what you're going to do to him or making suggestions along the same lines for others to follow up on.

    Wired / Threatlevel: Anonymous’ Barrett Brown Raided by FBI During Online Chat

    California attorney Jay Leiderman, a member of Brown’s legal team, told Wired that Brown was scheduled to be arraigned today in Texas on making threats to a federal agent.​

    The alleged "threats" apparently were expressed in these YouTube videos:
    • Why FBI Agent Robert Smith Has Two Weeks To Send my Property Back, Part 1/3
    • FBI Ultimatum Pt 2
    • Why I'm Going to Destroy FBI Agent Robert Smith Part Three: Revenge of the Lithe

  2. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    1. Tirades are better served when they are direct and contain factual information.
    2. Stick to the bloody point! Sidetracking makes the message muddled.
    3. Admitting on camera and Youtube that you have a supposed "mole" in the FBI, not a good thing to do.
    4. Next time you are recording a rant, please move your cell phone (that is on vibrate) away from the bloody camera.
    5. Calling an FBI agent a "mexican" is unnecessary and insulting to other people that may be sympathetic to your point of view.
    6. Mike, I like you well enough, but these videos are about as easy to watch as paint drying.
    7. Dropping a hint that you and/or your pals may hack Ingame in the future is not so smart either.
    8. Admitting that you hid evidence/possible evidence is not so smart.
    9. Admitting that you hacked government info systems for specifics on an FBI agent, not so smart.
    10. Openly threatening an FBI agent and his kids/family is communicating a threat, and is easy enough to prosecute in most states.
    11. Threatening to shoot FBI agents if they come to your home in the course of an investigation, and indicating that you already flet like "you were going to be dead by 40 anyway" that going out "with a bang" or 2 dead FBI agents by your side is also communicating a threat and easy enough to prosecute.

    Given the opium problems associated with his addiction and such, I tend to think that you are probably close to right Mike. He will most likely get off on appeal, but it will be under a mitigating circumstances type of situation and he will need to have the right lawyer steering him - IF he is found competent to stand trial. This is a troubled individual in his personal life, and his views are counterculture to most Americans, that will make his path much more difficult (whether it is right or wrong for that to be the case is a different issue). I do not envy him from this point forward.
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    My point may be murky given that he obviously has other "issues", but there's still a message in here for our more "enthusiastic" members: Don't make it personal, and don't aim it at an individual.
  4. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Agreed, and a good point to make.

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