A Pattern Emerges

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Elizabeth Conley, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I've been reading a lot of police brutality cases, and a pattern emerges.

    When police thugs decide to assault a citizen, they tend to recite the mantra "stop resisting" as they do so. This is ridiculous, since their victim is reeling from shock over the assault, and never in any way resisting. One presumes that the only way to "stop resisting" to the satisfaction of these thugs is to instantly transform your flesh and bones into marshmallow fluff. If you could become weightless, boneless and cloud soft they might stop chanting "stop resisting".

    These police thugs also tend to drag or order their victim to a location where, had the assault began in that location and the victim moved to this location of his/her own volition, the victim would have been committing a crime. This location is often the middle of a street, a crime scene or property with legitimately restricted access. In many cases the thug drags the victim from the victim's home, car or yard.

    The victim is usually selected for brutalization because the victim is observing the police thug doing something the thug knows full well is wrong. God help the victim if he's using a camera to hold the thug accountable. These thugs have an overwhelming sense of entitlement. For a civilian to suggest in any way that ordinary social norms or even the rule of law could apply to the police is intolerable to the thug. This is the perceived injury which sets off the thug's uncontrollable rage.

    Every day this pattern is played out in communities throughout the U.S. A tiny fraction of these assaults make it into the public eye. This tiny fraction still represents one or two news reports each and every single day.

    This is typical:

    http://www.kiiitv.com/story/1718731...ansas-police-officer-of-using-excessive-force

    There's more. The vast majority of citizens seem to think our children are protected by police. This could not be further from the truth. Statistics reveal that Police are far more likely to be sexual predators than the general population, and the preferred victim is a child or young teen. It's nearly impossible to get official statistics on the number of such assaults, but the people keeping a tally of those assaults that make the newspapers have a chilling statistic for us. When they compare the number of reported cases to the number of police officers in the U.S., then compare that ratio to official statistics about the general population, then police are 14 times more likely to be sexual predators.

    If you try to find statistics on the number of citizens killed by police, you run into a blank wall. These statistics simply aren't available to the general public. It's easy to get numbers on the number of police killed, but the number of citizens killed is a closely guarded secret.

    American citizens need hard data on crimes committed by police officers in order to make informed decisions about public policy. We should be clamoring for an honest accounting of how police are interacting with the public.
     
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    They yell "Stop resisting!" because it's an automatically more serious charge if you resist arrest. Even if you aren't resisting, they'll keep saying it because then it goes down on the record that you were. It's their trump card. (One of many.)
     
  3. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I can't believe judges can't see the pattern, when it's so obvious. "Stop resisting", "I beat the crap out of him/her because s/he spit on me", photography = "disorderly conduct"... Who can't see through this tripe?
     
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    The pattern is apparently being taken up by media and judges will have no choice but to notice it. lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits.
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Original Member

  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    "Stop resisting."

    If anybody in the U.S. still falls for this police-state gambit, then they're dumber than a potted plant.
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    So help me build up a searchable/Googleable collection of these incidents by posting them in ThumperWatch.

    Minimim requirements are title, link, date, source and 2-4 sentences quoted. I even have a web form that generates the UBB needed for forum posts: www.mergatroid.org/fmt.html

    Avoid expressing any personal opinions that could result in libel claims: Just link & quote news sources.

    What ThumperWatch does (and why it's still on vBulletin instead of XenForo) is tagging. All posts are tagged by state, city, county, police department, officers names, victims names. These tagged searches also get picked up & indexed in Google. I've already had one police officer in CA whining that the post in ThumperWatch is the #1 Google hit for his name. :D

    Injustice Everywhere is a great site but also superificial -- basically just a daily blotter of reports without indexing the key items so they can be searched.

    If two or three of you would commit to making one post a day (just take an event from Injustice Everywhere if nothing else is on your mind) in ThumperWatch, we could easily accumulate > 1,000 incidents annually.

    I'm willing to make the same commitment.

    Any takers?
     
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Okay, I can do this. It's actually a lot easier to just note link and news source.
     
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It's a deal!

    To avoid accidental duplication, I'll always take mine from the 2nd newest day's info in Injustice Everywhere. You can take yours from the newest day or any other source you want.

    Is there a 3rd taker?

    If you use the web form, paste in the title first. It will often fill in the source for you (e.g. nytimes.com in the link --> "New York Times" as the source).

    Quotes can just be first 25-75 words (~2 normal paragraphs) if you don't have time to pull out the best sentences. [Newspapers that charge for archives seem to offer up 1-2 paragraphs as bait, so I'm becoming comfortable that limit now that Righthaven has bit the dust.]

    Bottom line, however, is that specific format is not important.

    I'll try to follow along & double check the tagging.
     
  10. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    This is that link:
    Austin Police Break Arm Of Homeless Man Darryl Rodger In Unprovoked Assault - Let Go Without
     
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Well, I just tried submitting this via the form, and I kept getting an error message telling me to go back and insert link and insert title, even though both were already there. I'll go over to Thumperwatch itself, create an account, and see if it will let me post it in the individual forum (for Wisconsin):

    Milwaukee woman claims female MPD officer performed illegal strip searches
    And read the idiot comments there. The same person/people posting over and over that they don't believe it. God, some people in this country really need a comeuppance.
     
  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Re Thumperwatch registration:

    Okay. I give up. It seems I can't get the Captcha-type image of letters/numbers to match up. Everything I type is wrong.
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Send me a message with the name you were trying to register and I can create it manually, then I'll figure out how to block the ads for you.

    Captcha can be a pain but it's a necessary evil. I would have have dozens of spam registrations daily in my vBulletin forums if I didn't use it. As it is, I still get enough (even with Captcha) to be a major nuisance: 2-3 dozen spam registrations per real member. Spamming vB boards is a industry in India, Pakistan, Philippines, etc. They put links in their signatures/homepages/profile messages to build up the Google rankings. Besides Captcha, I also block large numbers of IP addresses from those countries. On another vB board, I've also started moderating new registrations; will probably end up doing that on ThumperWatch, too.

    Don't know what to say about the web form. I use it several dozen times daily to prep posts for TravelUnderground & two other boards. It's does NOT do the submission for you. It only generates UBB code that you can copy & paste, but overall saves me quite a bit of time. The link & title do have to be in the boxes prefilled with "Link" & "Title". As I said, it's an option. Any way that gets the info in is OK with me.
     
  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I used my real name, just as I do here.

    I understand that Captcha is necessary. I'm used to using it all over the place. But for some reason on Thumperwatch the image is really hard to read -- colors, shapes, sizes all mushed together. When I see a "3," I type "3"; when I see an "n" I type "n" -- etc. But clearly I'm getting the string wrong every time.
     

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