ACTA and airport security

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Sunny Goth, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I'm not sure if I've posted here about ACTA or not, apologies if I have. This treaty could have an effect on what goes on at airport checkpoints - and not in a good way.

    Here's a link to the wikipedia page on ACTA - the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.

    The big concern with ACTA is that it will restrict civil rights, and violate the constitution in a whole host of ways.

    As it relates to airport security --- from the wiki page covering border searches --

    Border Searches
    Potential border searches are covered by the "Border Measures" proposal of ACTA. As of February 2009, and according to University of Ottawa law professor Michael Geist, there is significant disagreement among countries on this topic: "Some countries are seeking the minimum rules, the removal of certain clauses, and a specific provision to put to rest fears of iPod searching customs officials by excluding personal baggage that contains goods of a non-commercial nature. The U.S. is pushing for broad provisions that cover import, export, and in-transit shipments."[64] Newspapers reported that the draft agreement would empower security officials at airports and other international borders to conduct random ex officio searches of laptops, MP3 players, and cellular phones for illegally downloaded or "ripped" music and movies. Travellers with infringing content would be subject to a fine and may have their devices confiscated or destroyed.[3][65]

    I'm concerned about the phrase 'airports and other international borders' and that the TSA may feel that they have much more leeway to search a passenger's electronic devices.

    Also - Michael Geist is the expert on ACTA.

    Oh, and let's not forget - this treaty was negotiated in secret.
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    The brave new world is here. We are being assaulted from every quarter.

    On the other hand, this might be just what we need to wake the sheeple up. They're perfectly fine with having their genitals groped. "But don't take my iPod!"
  3. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    This is what TrueCrypt and PGP is for, can make data disappear. They can look all they want there not gonna find anything.

    More and more over reach by govt thugs who realistically need a lead enema in the head.
  4. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Yep. TC containers and dummy partitions are your friend.

    For the truly paranoid, buy a clean HDD and install a minimal OS with some remote-terminal software like PuTTY, and keep all your data at home. Remote-connect in from your destination and do what you need to do. For extra security, have a trusted friend turn off your remote access and only turn it on after receiving notice from you that it's safe to do so, so that you cannot be compelled to access your data at home.
  5. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    CW - I know but certain data is a PIA to push through a VPN. The external drives are easy as there double vaulted, and for the laptop I have a seperate HDD with "factory" install I ghosted when the laptop was new, simply swap HDD and put in a hiding spot in a different part of my carry on.
  6. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    This is all good, but what happens if the TSA decides to confiscate your laptop because they can't break through the encryption? US Customs officials have confiscated any number of computers at the border, and in some cases people have still not gotten their computers back.
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  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I just said that to my husband this morning when I showed him this thread. He's one of those, like his family members, like most of my friends, who pooh-pooh TSA abuse (or they just like to stick their heads in the sand).

    But, of course, what did I predict above? That messing with people's precious electronics would get them more riled up. And it did. He said, "They're not taking my computer." Oh, really, I said, and what would you do about it? They've already done it to countless people.

    He had no answer.
  9. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Not my problem as it's none of there business, they can go pound sand or do something anatomically impossible.

    TSA isn't going to confiscate my laptop or electronics period end of story. If they attempt to they will be in need of medical and legal aide poste haste. TSA has no legal grounds to ask for passwords, and will be told as such(in not so nice terms). That far of a over reach will have LE called by me to the CP as I will be filing a complaint pending further legal action at my discretion.

    Customs can try all they want but they wont get the passwords out of me (as passwords are only part of my security schema (TC, PGP, USB keys, and fingerprint scanner). I'll whip out the screwdriver and give them the hard drive and take the hardware. This is the purpose of the HDD swap before coming back in to the country as customs seems to focus on that more then anything.
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    It'd almost be fun to take an old laptop running LFS or Slackware, not set to boot into a GUI and perhaps without even having Xorg installed, through a geTSApo checkpoint and watch them go apoplectic trying to figure out "Where's Windows?"

    But I'm not that sadistic.

    ...Yes I am.
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  11. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    CW - Heck even osX would probably throw the sharp as a marble asses. It doesn't matter the OS you can make the data disappear. That or set up the machine with a boot loader and have it automatically go to the predetermined OS that's nothing more then a shell. Misdirection & smoke and mirrors ... A page out of TSAs playbook and used against them.

    On being sadistic... No comment there ;). LOL.

    Only difference between us and those in the asylum is a matter of professional opinion, paperwork and we hold the keys.
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Anonymous' feathers are getting ruffled over ACTA ...

    Wired/ThreatLevel (25 Jan 2012): Anonymous Goes After World Governments in Wake of Anti-SOPA Protests

    They are launching international denial of service protests against governments considering ratification of ACTA.

    Thinking about this & the airports question, however -- without Congressional ratification (Obama is claiming he can accept the treaty just on his signature) there is no way that guarantees in the Bill of Rights can be overridden on his signature. Potentially that could be the case with Congressional ratification of a treaty.

    Given the current crop of bozos in the House & Senate, perhaps we are better off letting Obama sign it & then shredding it in the courts over time, rather than giving Congress an opportunity to make a royal mess of it by ratifying it and pretending that "they'll never do that" as they did with NDAA.

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