Advisory Committee gets an earful

Discussion in 'Other Aspects of Aviation Security' started by KrazyKat, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    The stacked Airline Security Advisory Committee met by conference call and decided that subcommittees on general aviation and air cargo would be resurrected. There are some nuggets if you can bear readingabout such things, such as a new committee on international security. But at the end of the call the "public" was allowed to speak. Oops.
    The TSA decided that future meetings will be face-to-face.
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  3. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I have this mental image of Sommer holding a rubber mallet and grinning in anticipation of another round of wack-a-mole. I almost feel sorry for the suits.

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  4. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Well done, Sommer. :)

    This paragraph caught my attention (emphasis mine):
    Sorry, Mr Leyh, I'm calling BS on this.

    I believe that what you're calling "encoding on the boarding pass" is the absence of "SSSS". (Not very subtle "encoding" if you ask me.) While this would indeed be "the vast majority" of passengers, I think you're exaggerating to imply that "absence of SSSS" means "expedited screening". Passengers without SSSS are still being subject to the NoS, patdowns as an alternative (or as a followup) to the NoS, bag checks and worse. Passengers without SSSS still have to remove shoes, laptops, and meet silly liquid restrictions.

    Did Lenore Zimmerman have SSSS? Linda Kallish or Ruth Sherman? Did Thomas Sawyer (twice) or Stacey Armato or Jean Weber's mother? I'm pretty sure Blogdad Bob would've brought it up as a "excuse" for their treatment if they did. :td:

    A second interpretation of Mr Leyh's statement is the Trusted Traveler program which should, indeed, allow for expedited screening (unless they decide on the day that it doesn't) but in no way could it be said to cover "the vast majority" of passengers.

    Or there's some third, top-secret vetting system we don't know about; a system that allows a very subtle "encoding" on a BP. I believe that TDCs are still inspecting BP visually, not with a barcode scanner. So this "encoding" would be subtle enough that passengers couldn't see it, but immediately obvious to TDCs, even those who cannot remember from one day to another that Nexus is a valid ID. :confused: And the TDC then ensures, somehow, that the other screeners at the checkpoint give the passenger an "expedited" screening. Uh, sure. :rolleyes:

    I believe that what Mr Leyh has described is what John Pistole and others hope will eventually be the case with their so-called "risk-based screening". The fact that he speaks as if it is reality today shows that either he is incredibly out of touch with actual airport operations, or he hopes that his audience won't think too deeply about it. Or, of course, both.
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  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Yeah, not my BP but I was visually inspected. The up-and-down, and "randomly" selected for what the FBI would call rape.
  6. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Apparently that's the "expedited" screening Mr Leyh believes happens to "the vast majority" of passengers. :mad: Unless there was an SSSS you forgot to tell us about.
  7. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Oh, no SSSS. And I have my boarding pass. :D

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