AF447: Am I Pulling Up?

Discussion in 'Other Aspects of Aviation Security' started by KrazyKat, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Reports of the last two minutes of conversation before crashing off the coast of Brazil:
    "Erreurs de Pilotage" reports the chaos in the cockpit. Plunging 38,000 feet in just three minutes and 30 seconds, the crew did not know why.
    One reader comments: Rule #1, Fly the Plane.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    When you're stalling, you don't pull back on the stick. :(

    You quotation of "fly the plane" might be more prescient than you thought. The very appropriate title of the article is
    AF447 pilot: 'Damn it, we're going to crash'

    And the discussion proceeds to new training for pilots to hand high-altitude stalls.

    Well, yes, but how about training them to handle the specific equipment that they're flying so that it doesn't stall in the first place????????????

    Every bit that leaks out sounds more & more like a NWA incident about 3 weeks after the AF loss when an A330 ex-Hong Kong lost its speed inputs and the autopilot dropped into what Airbus calls "alternate law". The pilots followed a very specific procedure to which they'd been trained by setting the throttles to a specific % of maximum thrust and continued flying the plane. That event is described in Aviation Herald.
  3. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    And what about the pitot sensors? Are AF + Airbus more interested in secrecy and deflecting responsibility than safety for the flying public?

    From comments in the Aviation Herald:
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    That comment generally is incorrect. It might be correct with regard specifically to TAM, a Brazilian airline. Some airlines still had the Thales pitot tubes in 2009.

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