Airport gropes and body scanners on Chicago Rail for Nato Summit

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by nachtnebel, May 4, 2012.

  1. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Metra and South Shore get Airport Gropes!

    Unbelieavable. This is just a test to see if by claiming it's needed they can get local rail and patrons to allow this crap.
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  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    This is Plan B, and the transit authorities have not yet agreed to it.

    Plan A was to shut down two rail lines. The local transit authorities pushed back & won.

    Let's hope Plan B flops, too. What's Plan C?
  3. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    My guess would be mandatory NoS scans and body cavity search for the elderly, children, and handicaped individuals only...:rolleyes:
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And that's only if you're parking a car out in Skokie. :D

    Show some Texas-style cajones, Chitowners, and send the feds packing.
  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    This country is so done.

    Now bend over and spread 'em, everybody -- after all, it's for your safety!
  6. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    As for me:
    Before I let them shine a light up my butt-hole, they will have to first shine a light across my dilated, nonresponsive pupils!
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  7. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    But last year we were all just alarmists when we said this was coming to the streets. So avoid flying, stay home and take the subway to work and get groped anyway.
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  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yep. I was writing two years ago at the Cogblog what I thought was obvious: that what was going on at airports wouldn't stay confined to airports. But apparently that was a crazy radical thing to say. Oh, well.
  9. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Not going to happen. This is Obama(lamadingdong)land.
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Only if he's current on his payments. Above all this is Illinois.
  11. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    From Wiki:
  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes, we've been discussing LRAD for a long time now in the Civil Liberties/Privacy forum. LRAD is a dangerous device. It was already used in 2009 in Pittsburgh, where there are still lawsuits pending from people who experienced permanent damage. It's basically a torture device.

    When the police deploy this thing, they have no idea who they're going to hit. Not just protesters, but passersby. People going about their business, trying to go to work, to shop, to go home. All are in its path.

    This is the land of the free.
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Add those to the list of objects I hate; nothing but a sadistic torture device. That thing is louder then jet turbines at full throttle. Will say this ear plugs and lead easily defeat it.

    Lisa your right, departments don't seem to want to use them anymore after legal eagles swoop in. Arlington Texas PD brought them in for the superbowl till one of their idiots pointed it at a lifeguard status helicopter "as a joke" "to test it"... Did not end well and devices were removed pretty quick.
  14. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Should I ask what it did to the helicopter/medic crew?
  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Well it caused a near fatal event, as the helicopter was on IFR final for landing (<500' off the ground). Pilot put it on the deck a little rougher then normal but the flight nurse had tinitis so bad had to be replaced, rest of the crew was changed out for eval. That was on top of noise cancelling headset/helmets.

    Headline would have been " police joke results in crash of medical helicopter... No survivors". Would not have bode well for arlington PD or the DHS idiots that brought it in the news let alone the resulting lawsuits by the company & families.
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Did any of this make the news? Any suggestion on where to look for links?

    More rhetorical than anything else -- not sure how I'd find the time to pursue & develop it, but this sound like something that needs to be systematically documented & exposed as poeple have tried to with tasers.
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  17. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I think the county Sheriff of San Diego bought some of these and deployed them at a political meeting there before getting called on it. The idiot sheriff was a fellow named Gore, who transmitted the shoot to kill orders from FBI associate director Potts to Lon Horiuchi. I'm not sure about countermeasures, but earplugs alone might defeat it, although a hard surface between your body and the source might also be needed. But surely low tech countermeasures would work. If not a 203 round.

    Amazing that the authorities would even consider such damaging tools. It is as clear a signal as anything how much they hate and fear us.
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  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Bigger question: How do these events provide any economic benefit to a city? Maybe they did almost 50 years ago (before the '68 Democratic convention in Chicago) but that day is long past. A city's response should something along the line of "You're more than welcome to visit, but we don't provide any special services, nor do we permit federal agencies to hijack local resources for their own purposes."

    NATO has a nice unused command bunker in their former AFNORTH post in a mountain (Kolsås) outside Oslo, easy access from the airport (express train to Sentralstasjion, Kolsåsbanen to the end of the line). Here's a picture I took of the original "situation room" ten years ago:


    I'm sure it could be remodeled and spiffed up for the occasion.

    If they get worried about rioters outside shaking things up too much, there's another situation room on springs deeper inside the mountain:


    Closer to the entrance is a nice conference room for press conferences. If the signs still work, you can turn them on and make the reporters & reporterettes feel really important:​


    If anyone shows up with a bomb, you can assign a TSA Smurfchen to take the bomber by the hand over to the blast deflection tunnel and chat until the bomb goes off:​


    A brief history of the AFNORTH command at NATO can be found here, starting on page 7:​

    I find the footnote at the bottom of page 7 rather amusing: :D

    They've had a lot of experience dealing with left-wing protestors & anarchists at this facility, the best known example being Arnie Næss in search of wine to accompany his Russian caviar:

    Just send them packing, Chicago!
  20. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    This is just downright insane.

    They can't bring food. Food?!?! Are you kidding me? So let me get this straight, I would imagine that most of the people affected by this are lower income workers who are commuting in for work. They can't pack a lunch or bring water?

    This country has gone insane.
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