AMTRAK Versus Flying -- No Brainer

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  1. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I just got done booking a one-way trip from Albany NY to BWI. Southwest's one-way fare was $72 + however much the TSA taxes us for the privilege of grabbing our crotches. I can take three different flights for this fare.

    AMTRAK's fare is $82 and I have the choice of seven trains throughout the day. I can carry on what I want, walk down to the cafe car, operate my laptop whenever I want, and, no official of the U.S. Government will touch me anywhere.

    Up yours, Pissy.
     
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  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    not always an apt way to go alas. I had to be in portland for a few days on biz, via amtrak, roomette too expensive, coach not, but the time was the killer, 13 to 14 hours vs 1.5 hours by plane. back on a quick turnaround, not practical. Like anything else, you have to pick your spots.

    OTOH, last month I took my son to see his prospective school down in LA area, went by train, absorbing the extra 3 hours hit each way rather than give the airlines a nickel I didn't have to.
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I took the liberty of email a copy to Southwest: :D


    1. Why my friends don't fly:

    This was posted today on a forum that I operate:

    http://www.travelunderground.org/index.php?threads/amtrak-versus-flying-no-brainer.7136/

    AMTRAK Versus Flying -- No Brainer

    I just got done booking a one-way trip from Albany NY to BWI. Southwest's one-way fare was $72 + however much the TSA taxes us for the privilege of grabbing our crotches. I can take three different flights for this fare.

    AMTRAK's fare is $82 and I have the choice of seven trains throughout the day. I can carry on what I want, walk down to the cafe car, operate my laptop whenever I want, and, no official of the U.S. Government will touch me anywhere.

    Up yours, [Pistole]

    2. Why we no longer fly:

    My wife & I both used to be Platinum Elites on Northwest Airline and later on Continental. We embraced Southwest Airlines when they came to town and were both "A-List" fliers, plus I earned Companion Pass within ~ 6 months of Southwest's arrival here.

    My wife was badly molested by TSA (pervert had her hand up underneath my wife's bra) as we cleared security at St. Louis in Nov. 2010. That was our last trip ever on Southwest.

    Other than a group outing to Athens, Greece, in Dec. of 2010 (I was the organizer & couldn't weasle out) we have not flown since.

    We'd love to be your customer again, and we really miss the excitement of flying somewhere 25-35 weekends a year. But until the molesters and perverts are removed from our airports, we will continue not flying.

    Now celebrating 2 years, 3 months and 18 days of a grope-free, airline-free lifestyle,

    Mike & Kathy xxxxxx
    Minneapolis, MN
     
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    On the other hand there's a "+" side to this as well. Our credit card balances have been falling faster than prices at Wally World. We ran up some hefty bills in early part of the last decade before my income matched my travel habits & we learned to fly mostly free. So far I've closed two airline credit cards that were once maxed out & also ditched our Delta Scamex cards.

    Although we'd love to fly again (and I have standing orders at work for "overdue" trips to Sweden & India), it's unlikely that we would ever resume traveling like we used to.
     
  5. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I'm right there with everyone. JoeBas has been following my thread on the Amtrak Unlimited forums about planning a trip to Providence this August for the Lovecraft literary festival and it's Amtrak all the way. Signed up for an AGR (Amtrak Guest Rewards) MasterCard to start getting free rail travel, so at this point it's officially in for a penny, in for a pound. The Amtrak experiment is no longer an experiment.

    I could fly free (assuming I ask my fiancee's dad very nicely) on Southwest and be there in 2 hours (and 2 hours back) but am looking at about ~$1000 in train fare and 48 hours on the rails (round-trip) instead. To me, this is 5% due to the sheer niceness and comfort/relaxation of Amtrak, and 95% for the purpose of avoiding TSA. My trip to Philly last spring, before I knew exactly how nice Amtrak was, was $300 and 28 hours (give or take) versus free and 3.5 hours, 100% for the purpose of avoiding TSA. Our road trip to Houston was 40 hours behind the wheel (and I've been a damn nervous driver ever since a couple of collisions a few years back) and, by our figure, about $700 in gas & hotels. For her it was an adventure with interesting sights and visits with family. For me, those things were icing on the no-TSA cake.

    I like Southwest Airlines. I think their staff are wonderful (Father-in-law-to-be as an obvious inclusion but also gate agents, flight attendants, etc.), their rates are very reasonable, and as airlines go, they've got a pretty relaxed experience going for them. (Pales in comparison to Amtrak, but apples and oranges.) All that said, as nice as WN is, TSA is an absolute deal-breaker.

    And you know what? Even after TSA is gone, I have no intention of discontinuing rail travel. I'll be far more willing to fly with the missus on short excursions, but I've seen the wonder that is Amtrak and am not going to want to give it up. This is bad news for airlines, as people will realize rail has more going for it than strictly TSA avoidance. There's long-term business harm being inflicted by TSA and if the airlines are blind to that then they are, to be frank, pretty damn dumb.
     

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