Another woman detained by TSA over false positive

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    I suppose we can say it till we’re blue in the face and it still won’t make a dent.​
    The so-called explosives trace detection machines, like the strip-search scanners, alarm on false positives all the time. All the time.​
    So this latest incident (that we know about — God only knows how many others there are) is no surprise, except to people who still don’t get it:​
    Just days after the Boston Marathon bombing, she was randomly chosen for a hand swab at an Ohio airport. TSA agents told her she tested positive for explosives, and what caused it is a common, everyday item.​
    “They said, ‘You’re testing for nitrates,’” Linda said.​
    She said she’s still rattled by the incident, and did not want to use her last name. She was at the airport in Columbus, Ohio, when it happened.​
    Linda went through the X-ray, then TSA workers randomly chose her for a hand swab, which detects traces of explosives. And she tested positive.​
    “I was shocked. I don’t know how that happened. The only thing that went through my mind was, ‘What did I do? What did I touch?’ because I had been at work all morning,” Linda said.​
    So what did the TSA do next?​
    TSA agents patted down Linda’s entire body in a private room and she was eventually cleared.​
    “I was probably in the little private room for 15 minutes, which was nerve-wracking,” Linda said.​
    Patted down her entire body. Patted down her entire body because of bogus “explosives residue” on her hands, which the TSA itself knows and has admitted is always a false positive. In private, of course, because they can get a better grope that way.​
    And Linda was apparently fine with that, because “it’s for our own good.”​
    “You know, it’s for our own good. It didn’t bother me, it was just shocking,” Linda said.​



    I repeat what I’ve said before: one of the most pernicious effects of authoritarianism is that it engages its victims as complicit in their own abuse.​
    I wonder when Americans will wake up.​
    (Photo courtesy of News 9 Oklahoma)
     
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  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    So being caught using hand lotion at an airport now gets you 15 minutes of lesbian sexual assault in a back room, and the lying demagogues at TSA are just fine with the abuse:

    The big lie is that the false positives are "occasional". They are almost universal. This is a worthless technology that merely gives them an excuse to physically assault people.
     
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The ETD machines are just as effective as TSA clerks.
     
  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Redundant. Anyone accepting a paycheck from the TSA is a liar - either to the public, or to themselves.
     
  5. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Step 1: How many of these back-room assaults have there been?
    Step 2: How many resulted in being "True Positives"?
    Step 3: # of assaults - number of "True Positives" = number of false positives.
    Step 4: # of false positives / # of assaults x 100 = percentage of false positive assaults = 100%.

    Simple math, too bad the spokeshole can't seem to master it. 100% is not "occasional".
     
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  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    while I applaud the continued pressure applied by publishing these stories, I object to the word "patdown" used in this context. The author should have spelled out what happens here. Having your genitals and breasts rubbed several times and butt crack explored by these enemies of humanity is not a "patdown". Even if you call the full monty rubdown out in public a "patdown", the private room thing is certainly NOT that.

    People need to say no when this happens. Based on a test whose alarms yield NO explosives 100% of the time, it is unreasonable on its face. Just say no!
     
  7. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Refusing is one thing. If I get my balls fondled by one of these freedom fluffers I'll be on the news for putting the pervert in ICU.
     
  8. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    ... Look at that mechanism of injury!
     
  9. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Busy moms and other busy women can be reached in the media-worlds they travel in. I'm like many who were reached "one grope at a time", and in my 'WTF?!' eventually found TUG. I think some pithy pieces which affirm 'it's not your fault' and lay out some factoids about ETD would be very effective in the women's press.
    A lot of women and others reflexively go to "what did I do wrong?," when there is a problem. Of course the problem is TSA. Blame barked at people can act on their self-doubt. It's really sinister, predatory in fact. TSA operates like a giant psy-op.
     
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  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member



    Sadly, women, or anyone, who believes the TSA keeps us safe need to be groped multiple times before it sinks in. Sadly, "Linda" won't be because she has fallen for the TSA and now she won't use hand/body lotion before her next flight - and she still won't understand that in doing so, she has fallen into the TSA trap of trying to make people change the way the live, dress and behave. As you said a "giant psy-op."
     
  11. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Wouldn't it be fun to have a hand sanitizer station just before a TSA checkpoint, of course with a glycerin based solution.
     
  12. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I'm dismayed at the large percentage of comments from the AFS crowd who think this type of groping resulting from a voodoo science instrument is perfectly acceptable "in this post-9/11 world."
     
  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Why should it surprise you? Look at what James McCormick managed to pull off...

     
  14. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I'm dismayed at the clerks who willingly sexually molest other people while knowing the alarm is a false alarm. And they DO know this in nearly all cases simply based on who the person is and how they're acting.

    I imagine if a clerk ever DOES encounter a live one and get detonated inside the private hut, they won't be so willing. If that ever happens, the protocols will change and we can expect the passengers who alarm to have to strip down naked, just like that fellow in Boston during the bombing fiasco, who apparently was forced to strip naked in the street simply because he was thought to be a person of interest.

    The clerks who do this are scum. That is why the clerks you see in uniform out of the airport tend to be shamefaced and embarrassed about their job. They know how a large percentage of the people view them and they know WHY.
     
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