BDOs coming to Amtrak?

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by JoeBas, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

  2. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    I thought the train yards employed some pretty hefty private security so why do they need to turn to TSA? Seriously...TSA?
  3. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    I don't know that it's going straight to TSA... YET. Remember TSA got their rear ends kicked off the property after the Savannah debauchel. But the article says that AMTRAK police are being trained in BDO technique... just more voodoo squinting.
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Someone cut lock on switch & opened the tracks 2":

    From what I know of railroad safety & signalling (not much), I don't understand how they could NOT notice this -- there has to be electrical continuity in the tracks. If a switch is opened, that should be indicated in a control room somewhere.
  5. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    It depends on the type of track. A lot of lesser-used track in the country has done away with the expense of automatic signaling, and use block authority (trains ask for and receive permission over the radio to use a certain stretch of track - as long as the track is "Occupied", no other trains can use it) over that portion.

    I know AMTRAK uses at least some tracks that use this scheme for dispatching.
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I was in a restaurant in Lordsburg a few years ago and next to my table was a railroad maintenance crew. I didn't try to overhear their disccsion but it was difficult not to listen as they discussed how safety circuits were being repaired in less than approved ways and how other things were falling apart.

    This was a freight yard and I don't know if passenger trains ran through or not but what I heard from these guys on how they were doing maintenance was truly scary.
  7. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    One universal truth about blue collar guys - they're going to bitch about work. ;)

    I bet if you overheard an Aircraft Maintenance crew, you'd never fly again!
  8. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    If Amtrak police are running the show, maybe things won't be as bad as having TSA BDOs probing pax? I really have to wonder what's next for train travel.. NoS? Bag screening for everybody?
  9. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    That's highly and wholly impractical.

    At major stations, commuter operations are usually co-located with Amtrak, and you'd either have to make major physical modifications to create some kind of segregated "Sterile" area, or screen tens (hundreds in NY?) of thousands of commuters daily. Good luck with that.

    At smaller stations, AMTRAK comes through once every day or every other day, sometimes at oh-dark-thirty. Good luck screening there.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see checked baggage X-Ray at major stations (most truly tiny stations don't offer checked baggage service, per se, though if you're in sleeper accomodations your car attendant will usually take a bag to the baggage car), but even that is a bit silly... baggage cars in general are segregated from the bulk of the passengers (usually between the engines and first sleeper car), and while you could theoretically derail a train by blowing up its "bag", it'd be much easier to blow up a bridge or even park a semi along the row somewhere in the middle of nowhere and accomplish the same thing with an almost zero chance of detection.
  10. the_happiness_store

    the_happiness_store Original Member

    Will the BDOs be able to determine that I'm looking for gelato?
  11. SafeButFree

    SafeButFree Original Member

    Wonder if the FBI has its eye on train issues now. They still have the pre-eminent responsibility, don't they? I hope TSA and FBI can cooperate. Lack of that is the primary reason we have to put up with any of this. It was law enforcement's unwillingness to share any info. And Collen Rowley can testify that the FBI had an "I don't want to hear" attitude in 2001.

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