Biggest ridership in AMTRAK history

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by KrazyKat, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    The report out of Chicago, day before Thanksgiving:
     
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    KrazyKat, where is this comment from?
     
  3. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    A personally reported first-hand account, thus quoted.
    Amtrak's own use canine patrols, which seems to work out fine.
     
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    please don't tease....I'm dying to hear more about the CHicago story, TSA getting frogmarched.

    just came back from a pacific northwest (I-5) car trip for thanksgiving. Nobody on the roads either. Unreal. It looks like if people traveled, they went amtrak...
     
  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    OK, now I know a bit more.
    Amtrak's total counts for Union Station were 40% NEW riders. Never been on Amtrak before in their lives.

    Of my friend's very small sample, 30% were first time riders and all said TSA was why.
     
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Link? I'd love to read Amtrak's actual stats.
     
  7. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    TSA showed up Tuesday. Amtrak Police Chief went over and asked them what in the h*%% they were doing. Replied that they came to setup checks of passenger luggage (for the biggest travel day of the year:rolleyes:). Chief told them to scram, that they had matters well in hand. :D
     
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    All I can find are year-end data for the fiscal year, which was good:

    "8 of the last 9 years" = post TSA :D

    During the same time period 3 legacy airlines & Frontier survived bankruptcy, ATA was liquidated.
     
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  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Thanks, that story made my day...
     
  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Double..
     
  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I hope this made the news somewhere. Haven't found a link anywhere else yet.
     
  12. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    These should be available this week, as press releases.
     
  13. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    It gets better. More detail:
    The day of, not before, the huge anticipated crush of Wednesday Thanksgiving travelers, TSA shows up unannounced and starts to set up inside Union Station.

    Amtrak senior staffer sees TSA agents on the floor. Goes upstairs, asks a colleague:
    "What's going on? There are TSA down there."
    "Not for long."

    ...
    Chief goes down, "What are you doing?"
    "We're setting up surveillance."
    "No. You don't have jurisdiction."
    "We insist."
    "No, I insist. You're leaving the building."
    Amtrak security are there to help escort TSA off the premises.
     
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  14. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    :DI LOVE IT!! A great big WHOOP, WHOOP, WHOOP for the chief who opened up that can o' whoop-(expletive deleted) on the TSA! ^
     
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  15. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    amen! a big can o' whoop *ss. This probably should send a message to those clowns at TSA HQ. They have reached "resistance" at last. If I were them, I'd be wondering about this. A 'one-off", John? Or maybe it portends the end of you folks and your sorry, anti American, anti Constitutional behavior.
     
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  16. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes, a small glimmer of hope. But it's still early days. Give the thugs time. Sooner or later, they'll be as prevalent at train stations, bus stations, subways (where they already operate) as they are at airports. One false flag operation, that's all it would take, one false flag.
     
  17. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Mostly turf war.
    Amtrak is also a quasi-non-profit, so it does not recognize any Federal chain (certainly through) TSA-- they have their own Federalized officers. Amtrak has their own version of a marshal's service and police. They conduct their canine-checks, and it works. So TSA is redundant.

    They do have restrictions on photography. What distinguishes Amtrak is having a "philosophy of customer-oriented policing." While the blue gloves were doing their probing and humiliation of passengers, Amtrak was ushering patrons to trains serving turkey and pumpkin pie. Take your pick.

    What galls Amtrak is TSA coming into their facilities unannounced, no-cooperation or communication whatsoever. If there is no cooperation, then there is no cooperation.

    The difference in Chicago (not only b/c it is incredibly stupid to ad hoc disrupt the already massive logistical challenge of moving that volume of Thanksgiving travelers) is that Amtrak authorities on-site have cojones. Union Station is not the Weenie Hut. TSA Chief O'Connor may have their back, but local experiences may vary.
     
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  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    They also stood up to the border patrol a while back by ordering a train to get underway before CPB was finished harassing their passengers. CBP greatly scaled back on their harassment of Amtrak passengers after that incident.
     
  19. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    That is awesome! :D^
     
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  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

    And thanks to you for linking the remarks in post #13 to FT.
     

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