Border Patrol agt Nicholas Ivie killed at Naco, Arizona, this morning [WAPO: friendly fire = cause]

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Mike, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    From here:

    'It's been a long day for us but it's been longer for no one more than a wife whose husband is not coming home. It's been longer for two children whose father is not coming home, and that is what is going to strengthen our resolve' to find those responsible and enforce the law, said Jeffrey Self, commander of Customs and Border Protection's Arizona joint field command.

    [30-year-old Nicholas] Ivie, who is married, lived in Sierra Vista with his wife and their two young daughters.

    If you sincerely wish to "find those responsible and enforce the law", follow up and apply the same to your anonymous death squads that have murdered numerous people. All killers should end up in prison.

    How about a husband and five kids whose wife and mother is not coming home?

    While they're pissing & moaning about their own, let's not forget the mother of five that their cronies gunned down in Chula Vista, California, Friday afternoon:

    Valeria-Monique-Alvarado.jpg
    Valieria Monique Alvarado​
    mother of five​
    murdered by the Border Patrol​
    Chula Vista, California​
    Sept. 28, 2012​

    All loss of life is regretable, but when karma comes around, she can be a real bitch.
     
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  2. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    These guys have murdered a lot of innocent people. I hate to see one of them die, because I'd rather see the murderers face justice than be murdered themselves. Furthermore, for all we know the murdered officer was a decent human being.
     
  3. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I agree with Elizabeth. This fellow may have been one of the good ones. He did not shoot that young mother of 5. Yet I agree with Mike also, that these fellows in CBP should reflect on the hurt and grief of the agent's family, and realize that this is felt also by the families of those whom Border agents have killed unnecessarily.
     
  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I don't wish bad things on anyone (well there are a couple) but CBP has used up about all the good will they had. When others in an agency tolerates or doesn't take action against bad employees then the public will have little sympathy when bad things happen. We have all seen far to many cases of questionable behavior by these guys.
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I doubt that any of them have clean hands, regardless of agency. If you want a view of how police officers view the rest of us, I suggest taking a look at policeone.com, a web board you have to prove you're a pig to join. Bring a bucket. :td:
     
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Latest speculation is that this was a "friendly fire" event ...
    Now wouldn't that be ironic! The cowboys are so ill-managed and ill-disciplined that they are killing innocent civilians wholesale -- are they also so ill-trained that are starting to kill each other? Karma really is a bitch when she comes around.

    Another article today describes the slain agent as a "jokester". The joke's on you, buddy, if this line of investigation pans out.

    This would make both recent Border Patrol deaths the result, directly or indirectly, of government bungling.
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    According to the Washington Post, the feds have concluded that it was a friendly fire incident -- in other words the Border Patrol's reckless cowboys managed to shoot each other this time instead of some innocent civilians.

    Washington Post: Border Patrol agent’s death was likely a result of friendly fire, investigators say


    Federal investigators have concluded that the fatal shooting of one U.S. Border Patrol agent and the wounding of another in southern Arizona this week was likely the result of friendly fire, according to law enforcement officials.
     
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Interesting wording: "lack of evidence of other criminals in the area" suggests that the Border Patrol personnel also count as criminals, a suggestion that many of us would agree with! :D

    KVOA: Friendly fire killed Border Patrol agent, sources tell NBC News

    Investigators are preparing to announce that the death of Border Patrol Agent Nicholas Ivie in Arizona earlier this week was the result of friendly fire -- accidental gunfire from another agent who responded to the same scene, state and federal officials told NBC News on Friday. The conclusion is based on an analysis of the ballistics, the lack of evidence of other criminals in the area at the time, and other factors, the sources said.
     
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  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Announcement likely later tonight ...

    NBC News: Friendly fire killed Border Patrol agent, sources tell NBC News

    Investigators are preparing to announce that the death of Border Patrol Agent Nicholas Ivie in Arizona earlier this week was the result of friendly fire -- accidental gunfire from another agent who responded to the same scene, state and federal officials told NBC News on Friday. The conclusion is based on an analysis of the ballistics, the lack of evidence of other criminals in the area at the time, and other factors, the sources said. A formal statement about the findings could come later Friday.
     
  10. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    They're catching on. Took long enough.
     
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    friendly fire is not all that friendly
     
  12. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Murphy's Laws Of Combat #6: Friendly Fire Ain't
     

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