Broward Backscatter Ban

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by KrazyKat, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Monica47 posted this link in another thread, but it deserves it's own. Home of FLL, the Broward County Commission voted Tuesday 12/13 to ask TSA to show the X-ray scanners are safe, or to ban them from use if they're not.

    TSA tried wooing the Mayor over the weekend, but to no avail:
    Prompted by the E.U. the Broward resolution:
     
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  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA needs to keep the Strip Search Machines at FLL but use them on the thieving TSA Screeners. FLL is the one airport where it pays to watch your stuff closely.
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Is that really a good idea? Three-eyed, three-armed screeners will be able to spot a lot more loot & steal it faster.,
     
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  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    The one airport?
     
  5. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Yeah, but the spontaneous popping kinda puts a damper on that. Nothing quite like a sudden explosion into a bunch of green goo to ruin a thief's (and the janitor's) day.
     
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    FLL under the direction of FSD Tim Lewis is well known for TSA Thieves including my personal experience of a cover up by TSA of an attempted theft.

    I honestly believe that TSA Screeners should be screened before and after their work shift.
     
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  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I was trying to make a sarcastic remark implying that this (the need to protect your stuff from thieving agents) obtains at all airports.
     
  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Sorry, I have a headache.
     
  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    And strip searched and cavity probed for good measure.
     
  10. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    This is an awesome assertion of local control over the TSA's physical turf at the airport. Go, Mayor Rodstrom and the supporting Commissioners!
    No wonder TSA was courting the Mayor. Wouldn't want the resistance to spread to the other 39 airports with these and draw attention to the problem...
     
  11. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    My husband is flying to Las Vegas tomorrow for a father/daughter weekend to celebrate her 40th birthday. Her gift is some family jewelry handed down from 3 generations. Two pieces are pretty valuable. My husband is only taking carry on baggage for this trip and we just had a discussion about where was the best place to "secure" the jewelry in his bag. We sure didn't want to make it easy for the TSA to steal. He might have to explain to our daughter why the jewelry smells a little funky because right now it is in the toe of one of his stinky running shoes. Something is mighty wrong when we have to think like this because the people who are supposed to keep us safe are just as likely to rip us off.
     
  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Oh, my god, I guess it's too late, but I would absolutely counsel against doing this. You can easily insure a package and send it UPS. Far safer than letting it go through the paws of these thieves.
     
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  13. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Monica, you might want to take a look at the TSA Union Facebook thread to see an example of screeners going through people's shoes.
     
  14. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    This Xray Backscatter Ban on the part of Broward County is the best news this week.
     
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  15. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Due to certain circumstances it was too late to mail it so we decided to take our chances. Fortunately my husband was not delayed going through security at Seatac - went through the metal detectors only. Ironically he forgot to take his quart bag of "liquids" out of his carry-on and it went through bag and all..... So much for being concerned about "exploding" shampoo.
     
  16. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Monica, glad to hear it.

    When I used to fly, I always left my liquids in carry-on. Always. I put them in the stupid requisite plastic baggie, so that if it ever got pulled out I could feign forgetfulness or ignorance of the rules: "Oh! Last time they told me NOT to take my baggie out!" But it never happened. The stuff sailed right on through.

    The only time I lost anything was when I foolishly followed the rules and presented my makeup tubes to the idiot agents. After lecturing me on how dangerous they were -- and how a Magic Plastic Baggie would've prevented any explosions! -- the smurfs threw them all away. If they had been in a magic baggie, of course, I could've kept them.

    This is agency in charge of "security."
     
  17. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I am, however, going to pass your suggestion along to my daughter and encourage her to mail the jewelry home instead of taking it on the plane. I figure we got it there why push our luck. As for your makeup - my other daughter travels a lot for business and apparently only some chapstick poses a security threat but not ALL chapstick. She is a mystery to me - doesn't care about the groping or scanning - but touch her chapstick and she gets irate. Go figure.
     
  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I take it she hasn't been groped yet?
     
  19. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I don't know for sure but she travels enough the odds are that she has. The big problem is she doesn't care. Thinks my attitude is nuts and I'm making a big thing out of nothing. However, she has had stuff stolen out of her checked baggage at JFK. Didn't make the 4 hour window the airlines gave her to report it. I've pretty much quit discussing this topic with her because I can hear her eyes roll back in her head even over the phone. However, the other two kids agree with me. And they are the two that hardly fly at all. It is hard to make a point with people who think getting to where they are going is more important than their 4th Amendment rights.
     
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  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As long as I live, I will never understand the dismissiveness, the denial, of so many people. Even though I see it all around me, even though it's always been there historically, for other things, in other times, I'm just gobsmacked that in this day, at this time, millions of Americans think it's perfectly okay that they and their fellows are getting stripped and groped -- to the point of sexual assault -- to get on a plane. That it's the new normal. I just can't wrap my head around it.
     
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