"buses, trains, and ferries could also be considered privileged travel"

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by Mike, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    This little gem was buried in a larger article. There should be little doubt as to TSA's vision of a police state with them at its center ...

    AOL: Is The TSA Screening Drivers In Tennessee? Not Anymore

  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And from the Tenth Amendment Center: No…I really can’t just take the bus

    This is a very good editorial.
  3. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    TSA cannot ever control highways because there is not the irrational fear of highway travel and terrorism that the public has (and that TSA has encouraged) of air travel. Even 12,000 Vipr (what a hateful name) missions is nothing.
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  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    agree. It is a strong-arm of the people where they live, on their roads and in their cities. It is obvious to anyone who sees it that this is a useless activity. I couldn't have picked a better way for the federal government to alienate the people. Way to go guys...
  5. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Notice how they are using Air Marshals on these Vipr shindigs. Another classic bait and switch. They don't have a general federal police force ... yet, so this is the best they can do.
  6. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    So far on the Washington State ferries I've only seen bomb sniffing dogs which I believe have or had been handled by the Washington State Patrol but might now be under the TSA - I don't travel very often on the ferries so it could have changed. About a month ago I was on the ferry and did see some uniforms wandering around on the ferry but could not determine if they were part of the ferry system's security or part of DHS. In any event did not see any purses, backpacks etc. being searched nor any people being detained. However, it's probably just a matter of time.
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  7. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It is only a matter of time. We have been predicting this for years. The Cape May Ferry, as an example, has already seen DHS thugs randomly appear for unwarranted searches. It's all part of the conditioning, which, I'm blue in the face from saying, most people are blithely going along with.
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  9. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Coast Guard is escorting ferries in Washington State, maybe not on every route, but on a lot of them. I rode ferry last summer, saw a bunch of "you could be searched signs" but no actual searches. They don't have the resources to do TSA style searches on every car and passenger -- and how could they bar guns for example? I don't see any real way that a ferry could operate under those circumstances unless they ransack every car at the dock prior to boarding.

    But that isn't really the point, the point is to create the illusion of absolute safety, and I suppose they think that a few random patrols will suffice for that.
  10. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    what will they do about the more-than- 3.4 ounces of fluid surrounding the ferry?! Whom shall be held responsible for that and how will it be confiscated? :eek:
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  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    From an item I saved in 2010 (you'll have to do your own filtering -- millimeter waves are not irradiating -- but it doesn't negate the gist of this piece, which is about our Constitutional rights -- remember those quaint things?):
    . . . When TSA isn’t hassling people on busses and trains, it’s pestering commuters on ferries. In 2007, yet another press release from its indefatigable, tax-funded scribes proclaimed, “In the past three years, TSA has conducted pilot tests on several high-volume commuter ferry systems, including the Cape May-Lewes Ferry in New Jersey, the Golden Gate Ferry in California, and the Jamestown Scotland Ferry in Virginia.” Without a single warrant, its agents searched both “ferry riders” and “passenger vehicles lining up to board the boats.”
    New York City’s Department of Transportation shuttles 21 million folks annually between Staten Island and Manhattan on its ferries. For three weeks in 2009, the TSA irradiated those passengers with millimeter waves: “Before boarding,” these criminals confessed on the bureaucracy’s website, “passengers will move through the terminal’s
 turnstiles at their normal pace. The screening equipment will be angled to passively screen passengers.” (Translating once more from the TSA Jargon yields, “With any luck, the poor slobs won’t even know we’re shooting carcinogenic rays at them!”)
    “Passengers will not be asked to stand in place, nor will they even need to break stride. Video images of the scanned passengers will be monitored by TSA’s Transportation Security Officers from a station set up to the side of the waiting area. The TSOs in the monitoring station will be in communication with roving TSOs and will notify them of any passengers who display an anomaly. An abbreviated pat down area will be available for resolution of those anomalies” — sans a warrant, of course — “and TSA-certified explosive detection canine teams will be available to screen passengers’ baggage.”
    Naturally, the media coos its admiration for this despotism. When cops frisked Greyhound’s passengers in Florida, theOrlando Sentinel chirped, “The idea is to keep off guard terrorists and others who mean harm, thereby improving safety for passengers and workers.” Actually, the idea is to keep shredding the Constitution until there’s nowhere to hide from the State. Don’t want goons ogling and groping you at airports? Too bad: They’re ogling and groping you on trains, buses, and ferries too . . . .

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