Calif. lawmaker cited after TSA finds loaded gun

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Lisa Simeone, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Calif. lawmaker cited after TSA finds loaded gun

     
  2. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    This could be good. We've long said that TSA gets away with the (expletive deleted) they pull because lawmakers usually don't have to encounter it firsthand. The more cases like this that occur, the more legislators are going to wake up and smell the burnt, day-old decaf about just what kind of unjustifiable abuse TSA is perpetrating against the traveling public.
     
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  3. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yeah, but it'll take years. And by then the TSA will be crawling all over us everywhere. And he didn't get groped or stripped. He did something he shouldn't have been doing. He was in the wrong.
     
  4. rockon

    rockon Original Member

    I think the local cops tried to give him a break.

    Somehow a 'mistake' was made and the citation was for an unloaded firearm. Unfortunately, TSA had observed that the firearm was loaded, so the local authorities have said the original citation will be amended. BIG difference in potential penalties, depending on whether or not the firearm was loaded.

    I'm sure this sort of 'mistake' happens all the time with ordinary folks. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    The more folks who get a taste of TSA, even if the mistake is their, the more opponents it will spawn.

    The VIPR teams may help broaden the invasions and add new members to the growing opposition.

    BTW, it seems to me that the number of negative comments on TSA articles has tilted decidedly in favor of the opposition since last year. I'm seeing fewer apologists relative to the number of detractors. Usually it is the same one or two apologists trying to fend off an onslaught of criticism. Those are almost certainly paid DHS employees since no rational person would go to the trouble unless they had a vested interest in growing the police state. Too bad IPs aren't published with their screen name.
     
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    If only. I'm surrounded by TSA apologists. The sad truth is that there are still many millions of them out there.
     
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  7. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Fortunately, it seems like the anti-TSA crowd is the one making the most political noise. I've dealt with apologists too but they generally seem to be of the "if it hasn't happened to me, it hasn't happened" crowd which suggests a measure of apathy on their part. Luckily for us, apathy tends not to breed political activists.
     
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  8. rockon

    rockon Original Member

    Or the "if it hasn't happened to me, it's because I'm just polite and friendly and you must be doing something wrong" crowd.
     
  9. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes, the blame-the-victim mentality.
     
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    It must be the uniform. Or uniforms in general - people seem to turn their brains off when someone wearing a uniform says something, and assume that the plainclothes participant in the exchange is the one at fault.

    "Look, they're on Official Business(TM)! They're in the Official Uniform(TM)! You were just making life unduly tough for them. Don't you know they're Doing Their Jobs(TM)? They have to do their jobs to put food on The Table(R)! For The Children (SM)(C)!"

    I'm not sure if it's all the decorations, the (sometimes) gun, or lifelong indoctrination to respect Authority-with-a-capital-A, but there's something about uniforms (even shitty, sloppy, lowest-bidder ones like TSA wears) that switch off critical thinking and skepticism in the majority of people. We hear positively-connotated mentions of uniforms all the time, from the sultry "I loooove a man in uniform" to the the emotionally exploitative "Help save our men and women in uniform overseas!" Though counterpoints exist ("Uniformed thugs banging down doors") we seem to hear them a lot less.

    About the only universal exception to the uniform rule is the Nazi/SS/Gestapo uniform because of the weight of historical significance. There are days, though, when I think a social experiment involving people wearing perfect replica Nazi uniforms with swastikas removed and US flags put on in their place would demonstrate some very interesting results.
     
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As numerous studies have found, uniforms — of any kind — tend to make people more compliant, more unquestioning. Not surprisingly, the obverse is also true: people wearing uniforms tend to act in a more authoritarian manner.
     

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