Canadian Privacy office finds air passenger breaches

Discussion in 'Other Aspects of Aviation Security' started by Leave no trace, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    The article has quite a few interesting points like:

    Oh, pictures are being captured !!!! It can never happen huh?
    Once again, it is clear that they cannot behave like intelligent beings.
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  2. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    This is something they've always told us in the US too.
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  3. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    And this is the one they found. What about the ones that slipped detection?

    You and I know this but want to beat they use the lines:

    It was an isolated incident, the employee has been retrained. Then about a month later; it never happened.
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  4. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    Is it only me that is amazed that there was a closed circuit camera found in the room used for screening???
  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    The organized ring that existed at Reagan National Airport, where TSA screeners routinely took women to a public stairwell and made them strip -- you can't make this (expletive deleted) up -- also used a room with a closed circuit TV. You really have to read this whole article because that's only part of it; it gets worse -- and this was back in 2004:
    I-Team: Illegal Strip Searches at Reagan National
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Fear not, they invoked FOIA to get to the "bottom" of it:

    I'll bet the answer came back to the effect that nobody had complained about TSA at National Airport.
  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    No, I bet they did complain - it's just that we never heard about it.

    My org did a FOIA back in 2004 - for all complaints. We got back a heavily redacted list. We made a similar request for 2005 and it was refused.
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I mean here it is 2011 -- 7 years after this happened! And yet the FOIA request is still making its way through -- through whatever shadowy process it makes its way through.
  9. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    My mouth is open, but I don't know what to say!
  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    they worked on easy marks in Washington. Anyone who violently objected of course would not have been subjected to this...
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It's all part of the package -- the tendency of people in power to abuse that power is the obverse of the tendency of people faced with the trappings of authority to bow to that authority. Women, especially -- we've been raised not only to cede to authority but to be "nice." Look how many women are taken in by the blue-flashing-light-behind-my-car scam. This happens all the time. Or women who let someone into their house because he flashes some inscrutable "ID."

    Too many people think that if they're cooperative, a criminal will treat them better. Nothing could be further from the truth.
  12. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Which is just sick. Those who know me know that sexism in any form at all is my personal berserk button and the cultural indoctrination of women into passive, submissive, pliable roles turns my (expletive deleted) stomach. People should be treating people as equals but instead we get situations where women are preyed upon (disproportionately so) by opportunistic sociopaths and then react with broad-brush misandry that goes above and beyond responding to those individuals who were responsible for the wrongdoing. End result is that the concepts of individual responsibility and individual virtue are all but forgotten. Women who would be perfectly respectable and self-sufficient members of society are cowed from childhood, commonly by parents adhering to some nebulous (expletive deleted) ideal of "tradition," into being mindless people-pleaser drones, and men who have done no wrong are saddled with the responsibility of clearing their names to abused and (rightfully) angry women who have been taught by experience that some people cannot be trusted, and further conditioned by social pressures to extend the mistrust to an entire gender of human beings. All because some (expletive deleted) thought it would be a good way to get their jollies if they put some fake cop lights on their car and went cruising for victims. If there were any justice, the victims would band together and give the wrongdoer a fake-cop-light colonoscopy, hold them personally, individually responsible and go about their lives in harmony whilst cop-impersonator spends the rest of their own life walking kinda funny.

    I hate humanity sometimes.

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