CBP reduces harassment of Amtrak passengers

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by Mike, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Read elsewhere, but you have to register to read:

    Trains Magazine: Has the border patrol backed off?

    Apparrently one Amtrak train's on-time stats are greatly improved after a high-ranking Amtrak official ordered the train to get underway while the CBP goons were still on-board harassing passengers. The goons threatened him with arrest, which never happened, and have since cut way back on the harassment.
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  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    God bless Amtrak - it seems to be the one and only organization taking a stand against DHS/TSA. And, ;);), it seems to be winning.
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  3. barbell

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    But isn't it pathetic that these goons don't back off because what they are doing is inherently wrong, but that they themselves were inconvenienced?
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The little Führers' arrogance in this is incredible. They seem to have no concept that that a train is planned to be at a certain place on the tracks at a certain direction & time & speed that has to be coordinated with other traffic.
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  5. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Lol. Would like to see them thrown off the train in a town that has no train service, no rental cars, no hotels, no eateries and see the hilarity ensue. Teach them to mess with a conductor on a schedule.
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  6. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Well, anything for safety. :rolleyes:

    It is exactly the personality type that would do something like this. :td:

    Line too long for airport security because procedures slow it down? You should have planned ahead.

    Train off schedule due to ridiculous, unnecessary, and likely unConstitutional demands for papers, please? You should have known it might have happened.

    They are, after all, just doing their jobs.

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  7. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    according to that other site, from exchanges there, passengers can simply ignore the CBP goons. they have no authority to do a d*mn thing to you in that scenario. it is simply a "consensual exchange".
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    A thug with a gun getting in your face on a train in the middle of the night is hardly "consensual".
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  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Confirmation of the changes is now appearing in the regular media, although CBP won't officially acknowledge it. Their union is whining big-time -- not happy that their thugs have been restrained. Both articles below are sourced from the Associated Press (Google News reports 340+ related articles, so the word is spreading).

    UK Daily Mail: U.S. relaxes Canadian border checks as agents are told to stop searching buses, trains and planes for illegal immigrants

    Seattle Times: Border Patrol scales back checks in north U.S.

    The whiners need to develop some basic analytical skills. Two examples from the article:

    In the first example, it doesn't do any good to harrass people by the train-load & bus-load if the few bad guy that you catch slip out of your hands & have to be dealt with by the NYPD.

    The second instance (car full of explosives on a ferry from B.C.) is a border crossing, not an internal checkpoint -- that's where they are SUPPOSED to be doing their job, and no one has indicated that inspections are bing cut back at BORDER CROSSING.

    Stupid people.
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  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    that's what *they* call it. I agree with you. just goon behavior.
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  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    But now I'm even more confused:
    That's well within U.S. borders. So it seems they can search you there. ?
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    No, don't have time to dig up the citation, but they have to ask if you are a U.S. citizen first.

    I've hit these checkpoints a few times around El Paso. Usually they're quick & courteous, occasionally they're jerks and like to flex their muscles a bit before they let you go, e.g. by spending an extra long time scrutinizing the outside (lacking probable cause they can't search the inside) of a completely empty rental car except for the two of us in the front seat.

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