Christopher Elliott on "Confessions of a rogue TSO"

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by LeeAnne, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. LeeAnne

    LeeAnne Original Member

    The funniest part about this is that the supposedly "rogue" TSO couldn't even write a readable book. Just goes to show you that even if a TSO speaks out against the crimes committed by the TSA, nobody will listen because they are so ill-educated they can't even express themselves! Yep - that's the demographic from which the TSA hires its workers.

    It also appears that the book doesn't focus on the crimes that the TSA commits on a daily basis (sexual molestations, elder abuse, violating the 4th Amendment, etc. etc. etc.) His big beef appears to be that they :::gasp::: TARGET MUSLIMS! (Caveat - I haven't read the book yet.)

    I do find the revelation that they won't let TSOs get their instructions on paper or read notes to be interesting. That certainly explains why nobody seems to follow the same procedures: they have to have a photographic memory to know what they are! And, given the demographic from which they hire, clearly THAT'S a lost cause.

    (ETA oops, sorry for the mis-spelled thread title! Can thread titles be edited in here?)
  2. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Sure, just use the "report" button and alert a coach!
  3. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    This TSA guy is a weirdo, but he said some things that will be very helpful for my lawsuit:

    "Letting a passenger simply walk out because he changed his mind about flying as a concealed weapon is about to be discovered is out of the question" (p. 54).

    If a passenger runs away from the TSA, he will be "instinctively chased by TSA officers and tackled to the ground" (p. 78).

    So the TSA does think it has the authority to detain people? My surprise that a TSA screener can catch anything but a Big Mac aside, does the TSA really think they have the authority to tackle passengers?

    "Even if the passenger decides not to proceed and wants to go back, the bag must still be checked" (p 82).

    "Passengers are always nervous as they put their belongings inside the X-ray machine. They know that what goes in is now the property of the government, and what comes out is a good question." (p. 92).

    So the TSA thinks it owns my stuff while I'm at the checkpoint? Where does the authority for this one come from?

  4. The "instinctively chased" part is funny. I mean, that's what grizzly bears do.
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  5. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    And dogs.
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  6. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    TSA employees remind me of the moderately "damaged" pit bull that used to live down the street.

    The poor dog was always doing himself an injury by chasing parked cars.
  7. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I have never seen anything that indicated we were to chase and tackle anyone, actually quite the opposite.
  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    So a percentage of TSA employees are likely to behave worse than poorly trained dogs.

    No surprise there.
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  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    yeah, can you imagine. That would be an invitation for the tackle-ee to just jack the living sh*t out of the TSA clerk. AND get away with it....

    this is all about some idiot trying to make a buck. Looking at the TSA clerks I've seen, tackling anything other than lunch is simply not in the cards.

    since we're doing confessions here, I have to confess that I've supported L3, after all. My EOtech Holographic sight is made by them.....
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  10. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    L3 owns Eotech? crap looks like im gonna have to look for different sights for my AR's. I refuse to give any money to company that commits treason.
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  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    alas. aimpoint or trijicon...
  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I had 3 dot Trijicon night sites on my Sig P245. Was disappointed. Very similar to these.

    Ended up going back to standard 3 dot. I think I can still hit center mass even in the dark.
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Thank you, a ACOG is on the list looks like it will get a better look then the eotech. A leupold on a AR just looks out of place, where on a remmington 700, mcmillen or AI is more appropriate.

    Boggie Dog - I have meprolight sights on my Kimber 1911, and they work well for me but they were on there when I bought the pistol
  14. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Mine also. Bought new from dealer. Just never gave me the sight picture I was looking for. What I don't know is how old they were before Sig installed them on the weapon. I have a laser on my .44 mag Desert Eagle. I like that more than the Trijicons. In subdued lighting the laser is very good and if need be the iron sights are not obstructed. Only problem is lifting the damn thing up.:)
  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    My issue with the .44 mag is the time it takes to prebandage my hands & put on the shooting gloves (optional with any smaller caliber).
  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I consider the Desert Eagle in the larger calibers to be more a curiosity than a serious shooter. Just my opinion. To heavy to carry but very intimidating if pointed at you. It actually isn't that hard to handle and the weight helps tame the energy of the round. I have fired a .44 Mag snub nose and that is almost uncomfortable to shoot. Way more muzzle blast than the Eagle.

    I'm old school and still like .45 ACP and that's why I have the P245. For a single stack it is small enough to carry and regardless of what others may say the Sig's shoot well. Limited in total rounds but I figure if you empty a magazine and still have a problem its probably time to run like (expletive deleted). I know a couple of FAM's and they carry .357Sig. I have heard the report and blast from that weapon almost takes down the perps before lead makes contact. Now my sister prefers the newer .40 cal, she thinks it has very good stopping power and relative ease of firing. She is a cop and has used her weapon in a take down so I will defer to her experience on that point. I'm just a casual shooter anymore and carry when I feel like it.
  17. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    .357 Sig is the .40 cartridge necked down to .357!

    & the .40 is a shorten 10mm mag.

    I love my .40 (Glock with pre-ban double-stack mags), also have a 10mm Colt Delta Elite that's fun to shoot but Colt's not what it used to be, have to catch the parts as they drop off. :(
  18. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I like 45 acp too, best of all worlds, stopping power, not much recoil. You can shoot that all day....I do like the sigs. have a little p232 with nite sights, kinda cool. you can have the desert eagles...too heavy. ever shoot one in 50 AE? miserable.
  19. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I shot a Glock .45 acp compensated not long ago, it was a range pistol and it shot like a dream, the recoil action is as low as I have ever seen on a .45, and staying on target was simpler with the .45 than with my KelTec 9. There are reports of powder blow and some wear issues in high volume environs, but it gave the stopping power with the ability to stay on target better. I recommend it if you have the option.
  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I have never fired the 50 AE. I bought the DE just because I could. It stays in the safe more than anything else. Like I said up thread a curiosity mostly. I have a couple of other toys in the safe also, an early 1911, Glock 9mm, 12 gauge pump (real home defense), M-1 carbine, 357/20 gauge over & under, and a 22 Speedmaster I got for Christmas when I was 7 or 8, over 50 years ago. I'm not a collector and only pick up a weapon on very rare occasions. What I do buy I keep.

    In my former life we played with torps, mines, bombs, rockets, missiles, and such. I was designated an armed courier if we loaded one particular item.

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