Climbing Mount Everest: Is it worth your life?

Discussion in 'Travel' started by Mike, May 25, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    If the odds were 1:50 that you wouldn't survive your vacation, would you still go?

    Associated Press: Days after deaths, another crowd attempts Everest

    1:50 might just represent a spike in the survival rate. The long-term death rate is 1:13 ...

     
  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Only if I wanted to return in my next life as a popsicle.
     
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  3. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I know a guy who climbed Everest back in the 1990s. I distinctly remember him telling me that virtually all the fatalities occur on the way down after people have reached the summit. He told me about seeing frozen bodies near the trail that will never be retrieved.
     
  4. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Did any of you ever read "Into Thin Air" by Jon Krakauer? It's a page turner. It covers a 1996 climb that led to eight deaths, including the deaths of two experienced guides. And whether or not he was aware of it or not, he raised several moral and ethical issues that I think are inherent in Everest climbs. Really good book, he covered it well.

    It's funny (funny weird) -- a group of my friends and my s.o. have talked about climbing Everest ever since we all read that book. I can see how people can become obsessed with climbing it - I have no desire to do this, btw.

    One friend said that she has nightmares that somehow, no matter how hard she tries not to, she ends up at base camp at Everest and has to climb. She's brought this up a few times, most memorably the time we were hunkered down in our Burning Man camp during white out conditions.

    I've always thought that I could make it to base camp if I trained for it. I've even thought that my nerves are good enough that I'd make it past the Khumbu Icefalls. But that's it. That's as far as I'd ever go. No need to go into the 'death zone'.
     
  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Too dangerous to get the bodies out, so up there they lie. Here are some photos, including one of George Mallory, a famous explorer.
    hence my popsicle crack.
     
  6. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    That site is creepy man. I think I will pass on the Everest thing, I am good with scaling the stairs into the front door for now!
     
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes, I read it. And Krakauer's other books. (Actually, I'm pretty sure I interviewed him about it, but for the life of me I can't remember.)

    I still think it's insane. Hubby and I talk about this all the time. He's into it -- meaning he "understands" why people want to do this (expletive deleted). I think it's ego run amok. And frankly, I'm not impressed by it the way I'm supposed to be, the way most people are. "Oh, wow, you climbed Everest! What an accomplishment!"

    Really?? You know what I think is an impressive accomplishment? Learning a foreign language to fluency, especially later in life. Getting a PhD in physics. Acing a difficult Latin test :). Learning to walk and talk again after a stroke.

    Sorry, but I'm not into this . . . what to call it? . . . frankly mass hysteria of wanting to climb Everest. I don't give a (expletive deleted) who climbs Everest.

    And the waste of life! My god. This woman had her whole life ahead of her. The guys in Krakauer's book -- the one guide had a wife and newborn child at home. He was on the phone to her just before he died. Come on, talk about irresponsible. You threw your life away because you just had to climb Everest yet again, and you left a wife and child bereft. I just can't respect that (expletive deleted).
     
  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Climbing Mount Everest: Is it worth your life?

    Transiting TSA Security: Is it worth your dignity?
     
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  9. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I understand why people would want to do this too. It's pushing yourself to your limits and maybe even beyond. If someone told me that they climbed Everest I'd be impressed. I'd be more impressed though if they had somehow managed to keep their morals and ethics intact. So yeah, I'm not all that impressed with Jon Krakauer, but I'm very impressed with some of the other people on other teams who did the hard work.

    All very impressive - but there are different types of accomplishments. :)

    I got nothin'. :)
     
  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I'm sorry, but despite acknowledging what y'all said, and yes, I'd never consider it for a micro second, if I know someone has made it to Everest and back, yeah, I find that cool. Of course, one guy I worked with attempted this and all his fingers are gone up to the middle knuckle from frostbite. coolness at a price. But yet, still cool. Somehow. The old choice between a long and happy life and short, glorious one.
     

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