Coincidence? I Don't Think So [Bomb Implant Threat]

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Elizabeth Conley, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    The TSA has had a bad week, and suddenly we're supposed to imagine there's a "new threat" to justify even more extreme thuggery.,0,7473541.story

    Remember when the TSA thugs abused the veterans with shrapnel wounds? How many people have scars, metal plates, metal joints and even fresh surgical wounds that should not be contaminated? The flying public is in for a very unpleasant escalation of abuse.

    This is a recipe for even more assaults committed by ignorant TSA thugs deliberately excited to a fever pitch by the paranoid rhetoric coming from their criminal "leadership".
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Probably not a coincidence at all, but the propaganda machine is running out of credibility.

    Translation: We have no clue what to do, but we'll do something.

    A pat-down that would detect explosives hidden internally must be quite a massage!
  3. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    You're right Mike. That's what worries me. When the thugs' imaginations are deliberately overstimulated, they think nothing of putting their filthy gloved mitts under people's bandages and probing viciously into surgical wounds. It's happened before, and with the rhetoric in overdrive this week it will happen again. Sick people who must travel will be tortured to prove the TSA/DHS's point: the current regime will recognize no boundaries.

    Now we are intimidated into pretending to enjoy interacting with these repulsive cretins, because to betray natural revulsion is to invite even greater abuse.

    The sheer inanity of poking and prodding a person's wound under the justification that you imagine the injury to be packed with explosives simply defies all logic. You're going to poke at your victim, inflicting more pain and subjecting him/her to gross contamination of the wound, and if you get lucky then you both get blown to Kingdom Come? Really?
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I left my 2ยข worth in their comments:

    The above was filtered. Here is the kinder, gentler version with slightly obfuscated web links that was posted:

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  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Mike, they filtered your comment? And messed up the links?
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Don't forget the guy whose colon cancer scar was repeatedly rubbed, poked, and prodded by these morons "to see if you had anything sewn into your stomach."

    All of this was predictable. The abuse will only get ratcheted up, our overlords will come up with a constant stream of new (expletive deleted) to scaremonger the public, and the sheeple will fall right into line. Al Qaeda and friends are laughing their asses off. I picture them sitting around a table, saying, "Wow, what new outlandish (expletive deleted) can we come up with to keep the Americans hopping?!"
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I would be in favor of the almost impossible task of a nationwide boycott of commercial aviation. The must travel business types could manage a few days with charters or net conferences. The only way this crap will end is when the money dries up, either funding for TSA or funding to buy airplanes and pay employees.
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    boggie dog,

    Exactly. I've been arguing this till I'm blue in the face. But the sheeple like their fear. They actually like it.
  9. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    Explosives in breast implants?

    The TSA is looking for an excuse to feel up busty women.

    Let them touch my wife like that. I'll spend the night at Wake County Jail, and it'll be worth it.

    (For the record my wife does NOT have implants.)
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  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Of course this is no coincidence. As FW2M said at the other place, it's budget time and as Elizabeth pointed out, TSA has had a run over the past few weeks, so a new threat needs to be manufactured.
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    They filtered version #1.

    I messed up the links myself when I posted version #2, which replaced "thug" & "goon" with "criminal" & obfuscated the links. I don't know if it was "thug" or "goon" or "http://www." that triggered the filters & didn't have time to experiment.

    Watch how the LA Times responds to your postings. If it mentions that "posts are filtered for ..." it probably went to the bit bucket.
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    There's an even better writeup on ABC News: Alert: Terrorists Look to Implant Bombs in Humans

    I expect rougher gropings are coming. And remember, if they suspect they've found a bomb, they're supposed to stay with it & call a supervisor.

    This does not bode well for women with breast implants or reconstructive surgery.
  13. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I suspect if some A.S.S. finds a bomb during screening that will be just about that last thing they hear before the boom.
  14. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Worse: We have no clue what to do so we'll let the A.S.S. es do whatever they think of.

    How much more of this [self-censored] is America going to stand for?!?! :mad:
  15. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I don't know, but I suspect it ends about the same time we break the public, the media (maybe almost there) and Congress of the knee-jerk reflex.

    The key mentality is "it is acceptable for people to die." And godDAMN, but that's a tough pill to swallow. Still, they have to swallow it or they'll keep mindlessly repeating tripe about remembering some numbers (nine and eleven seem popular) and arguing back with "but if a terrorist gets through, people could DIE!"

    I keep using the Revolutionaries fighting the British as an example of why AFS is wrong. Maybe that "they may take our lives but they'll never take our freedom" line fom Braveheart would be good too, if a bit melodramatic.

    Methinks the abuse ends when Congress recognizes, either by their own volition or by votes being leveraged againt them, thus robbing them of the choice, that liberty outweighs life in importance and that we are strangling our future of freedom with this psychotic terrorist witch-hunt and the quest for the red herring that is perfect or absolute security.

    I'm just hoping that the question "Where does it stop?", when coupled with the aforementioned examples, is a suitably potent rhetorical device to force people to reevaluate their priorities.

    (typed on my N900; pardon any typos or grammatical anomalies)
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I don't know. The feedback is getting to be solidly anti-TSA but they just keep coming up with more scare tactics, e.g. the pending reign of terror from the boobie bombers.

    From the description of how one might set one off (pushing down on it) I don't know how they will search for them. Will they physically inspect every woman for signs of surgery under her breasts? Then what?

    It's just mind-boggling where the think they're going.
  17. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Did they start with the outcome and work backwards? "Hey guys, let's brainstorm! How can we justify putting our hands all the way under a woman's breasts and feeling around for a while? What kind of WEI could we say we were searching for? Yes, Bob, what's your idea? ..."

    Mind-boggling indeed.
  18. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    It's mind-boggling that our enemies simply can "suggest" a new method of terror to have DHS/TSA overreact. They don't even need to implement the threat but merely feed a media campaign to get exactly the kind of knee-jerk reaction, outlined in this article. Un-f-ing-belieavable!
  19. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    As I understand it, a couple of gadfly terrorist wanna-bes were idly chatting about these highly improbable "possibilities" in an internet forum. That's all it took to get the DHS's flake squad excited to a fever pitch of histrionic fear mongering.

    This should be a warning to us all. Mention that you have a hangnail you plan to clip in an internet forum, and some eeedeeeyot will fantacize that you're a terrorist planning to hang Norman Mailer and escape by clipper ship to Manila. A few days later some pimple faced kid in Peoria would point out that Norm's been dead for 3 years, but by then the hysteria will be in full swing.

    There is not one iota of common sense permitted in the DHS.

    We pay for this crap! Yes, the feds squander our taxes hand over fist on such pseudo-intelligence. We have a federal deficit precisely because the lunatics in charge will spend our money on such inanities.
  20. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Damn! I responded to this last night via my cell (using Swype, thank you Mike) and it didn't get posted.

    TSA tried focusing on women's breasts and few years ago and that backfired on them. I venture it will happen again. Further, a segment I heard on the news last night (or maybe read someplace) said a breast bomb could be detonated just by pressing on it. Would you want to be the screener doing that "exam"? :D

    That same report also mentioned buttocks bombs made to look like buttocks enhancement procedures. I can see anyone with a big butt being made to strip to the skin to prove h/she has no surgical scars.

    OTOH, we've also heard that DHS/TSA is looking for these bombs to come from overseas. A television interview of US citizens returning from overseas showed no reflection of this. One woman even said that they'd just gone through the normal overseas security, no shoe removal, no belt removal, just wtmd and x-ray of carry-ons, "not like in this country" were, I believe her words.

    ETA: I can also foresee TSA forcing women to remove their bras to look for scars that either WBI can't see or if the woman gets a grope for another reason.

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