Coincidence? I Don't Think So [Bomb Implant Threat]

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Elizabeth Conley, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    TechDirt chimes in: TSA Planning New, Even More Invasive Security Measures In Response To 'Threat' Of Implanted Bombs

  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    ABC said:
    Surgery to implant explosives could be done a couple of days before a planned attack, said James Crippin, an explosives expert in Colorado. In order for it to work, there would need to be a detonation device, and it's conceivable that if the explosive was implanted in a woman's breast, the detonator could be underneath the breast so that all the operative would have to do is press downward, Crippin said.

    There was a time when I would've said these people defy belief. But not anymore. There is nothing too outlandish for them. And nothing too degraded and degrading, nothing too base, nothing too grotesque. The sheeple continue to put up with the most egregious abuses, and our overlords continue to spew the most outrageous crap. To paraphrase Jennifer Abel, who writes for The Guardian (I've posted her columns elsewhere on TUG), the TSA keeps shoveling (expletive deleted) and calling it Freedom Chocolate. And the public laps it up.

    They're already molesting men, women, and children. And now, with this garbage, this unrelenting fear-mongering, they're telling us that it's only going to get worse. Again, several of us predicted this would be the course of action. But the know-nothings and enablers out there just keep ignoring, ignoring, ignoring.

    I don't know how many times I can invoke the names of Philip Zimbardo and Stanley Milgram, and still the sheeple don't get it.

    Al Qaeda are laughing their asses off. They haven't had to terrorize us; we've done it ourselves. They don't even have to come up with anything. Our overlords do it for them. The most they have to do anymore is sit around jawboning: "Wow, I wonder if the Americans will go for this?! Sure, they will. Let's put it out there and watch them jump!"
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  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Boston Herald: Gut Instinct Gets New Meaning

    A bit of commentary on the subject from Dale McFeatters at the Boston Herald:

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  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I just left a comment at that Dale McFeatters Boston Herald column. Thankfully, I'm not the only one there who recognizes the idiocy and manipulation going on. And I'm guessing more people will likewise chime in.
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    This excellent editorial posits that belly bombs are just sheer propaganda.

    American Opinion: Belly-Bomb Baloney: The TSA Lies Yet Again

  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It's complete propaganda. Sheer, unmitigated, obvious propaganda. But the sheeple are falling for it. Just watching various videos that pop up here, of people getting groped -- well, it's unbelievable. I can only shake my head at what people are willing to put up with. So of course they're willing to believe any crap Uncle Sam spews at them. "The Terrorists! The Terrorists Are Coming To Get Me!"

    Becky Akers has been very strong on the TSA -- I've read several of her essays. I'm assuming she's still working on her book about it.

    As I keep saying, all it would take is one little explosion, no matter how tiny, no matter how non-destructive, and our overlords would jump all over it (just like they trumpeted their sting operations wherein they induced some sad sack to think he was part of a bomb plot, then pounced on him -- "look what we did! we're heroes!"). And half of America, if not more, would eagerly fall into line, helped by all the media cowards.

    I used to think letting Umar Farouk Abulmutallab on that plane was simply incompetence rather than a false flag operation. And it may have been. After all, our overlords can't keep their frigging watch lists straight. But after hearing Kurt Haskell in various interviews, I'm not so sure.
  7. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Its all about planting stories that support a budget increase. The Federal government as a whole is a massive exercise in empire building. I listen to Federal News Radio during my morning and evening commute and the average citizen would not believe the level of pandering taking place in the government.

    Even though the parent station, WTOP, is a private company their listeners are largely Federal employees and contractors in the DC area so the content is tailored to suit that audience. To listen to these interviews and reports one would think that the fate of humanity rests on the Federal bureaucracy. Every agency, no matter how obscure is painted as being absolutely critical to the survival of mankind and needs every last worker just to keep up with the crushing workload. It is simply sickening when one considers how many days these people have off and the rampant waste occurring at that level.

    TSA is simply a product of their environment and is playing the same game as EPA, DoD and the other agencies, it's just that people have a more, uh.............. "personal" interaction with TSA than many of the other agencies
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Fisher1949, good point. And that's why I think we'll have a terrible time getting rid of these abuses, because the horse is already out of the barn. Still, at least I'm going down fighting.

    By the way, all, please take a look at Amy Alkon's latest and the fight going on amongst the TSA apologists and the rest of us. I've repeated these arguments so many times, and it just doesn't get through. Amy is very strong on civil liberties, powerful in fact. And a good example of how we on the left and right (or however you wanna define it -- these left/right distinctions make less and less sense anymore) can come together. Amy's a self-described libertarian, I'm a self-described socialist -- but we are 100% in sync on civil liberties and importance of protecting them. I introduced her to defense lawyer Mark Bennett, and she recently put up this post:

    Make Your Child Pedophile-Ready
  9. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    An amazingly well-written argument. Thank you for sharing it, Lisa.

    I particularly liked this part:

    It reminds me of the recent videotaping incident at BWI. At the end the agents demand Ben's ID and boarding pass to fill out their "report." Plain and simple, you do not have to relinquish this information. The actions there are punitive. If demanded, refuse and walk away. Period. I've done it myself with success.
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