Congressmen seek to lift propaganda ban

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Lisa Simeone, May 20, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Do you think the government should feed citizens false information?

    If that is happening now in light of a law making such practice illegal should it continue?
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  2. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Well, how do you think it would affect a controversial organization like the TSA? We could see an explosion of government trolls setting up accounts on this site and other social networks where the majority of members are anti-TSA. These government trolls would be allowed to set up as many troll accounts as they can manage and disrupt a social networking site. Unless there are good moderators in place, they could do some serious damage to a site.

    It's really poisonous because site members may not know who to trust (if anyone), they get tired of dealing with the meta issues (like 'how do we deal with moderation on 'x' issue), and eventually leave the site because let's face it, we all have better things to do than fight with trolls.

    In a case like that, the trolls win - really a double win -- they managed to shut down good discussion on an issue, and they probably made members who left question whether they should get involved in other sites in the future.

    So there's my TSA example. Imagine that same example using other controversial governmental agencies. And apply those tactics to news programs and news sites. We're already cynical as a nation, it could get a lot, lot worse if the government was free to unleash their propaganda machine on us.
  3. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Which is already the case in many situations. Both sides of the major issues have their proponents pushing their own version of what they want or "see". I see Infowars quoted here from time to time - quite a bit of what they post is completely wrong or misinterpreted. I have not seen much (if any) quoted here, but Rush Limbaugh is wrong quite often (don't take that as a knock against Rush, he is an entertainer). Half of what comes out of any Washington source that is not "official" is usually about 30% truth and 70% conjecture. Much of what comes out of official Washington sources is either slanted towards political goals of the sitting staff or has been distilled down to certain parts of the message that they want to focus on. I agree that disinformation is the enemy of all people in this country, but it has been there since the beginning and will not go away whether this gets through or not.

    Edit to add: please do not take the above as a political commentary, they are merely the most prominent sources I could come up with this early in the morning.
  4. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I do not, but it has been happening since we became a country (not defending simply stating things as they are).

    Of course not.
  5. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    That was what I was after, something I had not considered. It is truly a poisonous issue because of things like this, the subtle things that I am not always going to be privvy to. Mass marketing of a "version" of information is another downside to this type of issue. Some groups already do this as well, and with the anon features readily available in the social media sphere, I am surprised that more of this does not go on. I think that sites like this would be ok for the most part, even though the coaches would be busier by far. Some of the less involved sites would be the ones to suffer, and some of the .gov sites would be flooded as well. Spam is a huge time consuming drain on many moderated sites, even with Spam filters in place, and add in the need to sift through the trollery, and it can cause many small dissenting sites to shut down.

    Nice logic train Sunny, thank you for for making me think this early in the morning!
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    The government has huge resources, first their own prestige and PR, second, the cooperation of the media, and third, actual possession of power. The only thing now left to the people, is the internet, which is the vox populi, and which is now the only real way to mobilize public opinion. This bill enables the government to dominate that now too, flooding out that voice and discouraging the use of that. It is a naked power grab. The price of this suppression and other suppressions on the street will lead to violence as an outlet, IMO.
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    While we will likely disagree I believe that the TSA blog is engaged in propaganda in an effort to advance TSA. It is clear to even a casual observer that many of the articles posted by TSA twist the truth into pretzel like shapes.

    Believing this I have to wonder how people of good moral character can continue their association with such activities?
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member


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