Cops keeping cool while being filmed & harassed

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Mike, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Ran across this while I was surfing YouTube for material for a different project. This apparently was filmed in L.A., posted in 2008.

    If only the hotheads in some of our airports would follow their example.

     
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  2. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Dude was like "crap" under his breath when he got into the drivers seat. He got busted and just went on about his business afterward, the only way that could have been better is if he gave the guy his name and badge number outright.
     
  3. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Streaming video does not always play nice with my Aircard, but when he was asked his name, did he look down at his chest as if to see his name / badge # was hidden under his seatbelt? :D

    It interesting to watch the show COPS and see the various ways different LEOs handle situations. Some have the patience of a saint, and you can tell that's just the way they are all the time when keeping a situation from escalating. Others clearly get amped up on adrenaline and are trying to restrain themselves while the cameras are rolling. Depending on the jurisdiction, it has to be a depressing job to see a constant stream of drug and alcohol abuse, domestic violence, and kids getting caught up in the middle of it all.
     
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  4. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    When I was on the road at Ft. Lee, I liked to be sort of laid back with the gang, I mean... we are all essentially on the same team right? However, when it came to knucks and cuff time, decisive action was the hallmark of the gang I was with. I never hesitated to give my name and rank for anyone, I also took great pains to not do something that placed me in a postion to be questioned about my decisions (wellllllll....... for the most part anyway). It helped that when I worked RADAR I had the wireless mic and dash cam on all the time, it cleared up any of the he said she said crap. My dad was a cop for 30 years and a CSO for the US Marshals for another 17 - he said that he has respect for anyone that puts the badge on now, even more so than when he was out there because they had much more leeway and there was a higher level of respect for LEOs in general. He also said that it was a depression factory for many of the guys because they never learn to let the job go, and leave it at work. I feel for the good ones, it can't be easy for them nowadays.
     
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  5. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Well, good work. I would have a hard time being a policeman because of everything you write. People don't understand it, but the ability of the ordinary civil police officer to do his or her job is actually a sign of an advanced level of civil society. Otherwise it turns into Iraq or Somalia, where the whole legal code consists of Section AK-47.
     
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  6. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    Talking about the dash-cam brings up a good point. Maybe TSA clerks should have to wear them..
     
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  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    With software like QIK so they can't delete the good ones.
     
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  8. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I already suggested that TSA install and operate their own CCTV system in all areas that TSOs work in (on airport premises) to provide protection for the passengers, and the TSOs. An ancillary suggestion popped up suggesting the vox systems be required on the TSOs as well. How far that suggestion goes is another thing, but I have suggested it, and will resubmit every 2-3 months just to get it some traffic. Personally, I would love, love, love to have better CCTV coverage. It would also cut down on the ability of bad apples to take advantage of the "dead" zones in checkpoints and baggage rooms. It would also help to alleviate some of the claims against TSA for damage (or to resolve it for the passenger if it is TSAs fault), fraudulent claims against TSOs in the checkpoint (as well as proving that they did do what the passenger claimed), and it can help management have an after action review if a situation occurs, allowing for constructive criticism and improvements to efficiency. While it is not a magic solve everything tool, it would make many things easier to resolve.
     
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  9. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    All 100% true. Sometimes I wonder if TSA doesn't have a problem with management being out of touch. We saw this in the Honolulu baggage handler incident, and we also have seen a number of organized criminal operations going on among the TSOs. Ultimately management has to take the blame for these, which no matter how one slices it, are a detriment to the security of the traveling public.
     
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  10. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I think that a lot of times things like this boil down to money, opportunity and pre-existing systems being seen as adequate. Let's face it, at the moment another large scale investment in each airport screening area would be a hard sell (a valid upgrade from the security point of view, but a hard sell nonetheless). I feel very strongly about it, but many of the other TSOs don't necessarily share that fervor. It could be a useful tool in many ways, but installing all the equipment and having the infrastructure and support personnel that go with it, may just be too exhorbitant a cost at this time (especially with the budget crunch and the economy stalling and shrinking again).
     
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  11. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    A lot of the issues could be resolved by management just walking around, being at the checkpoints, going down to the baggage room, watching what happens. Pretty low budget solution. Maybe that's happening already. But it seems like there's a great possibility that it is not, at least at some airports.
     
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  12. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I can't disagree with anything you have said.
     
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