Court OKs warrantless use of hidden surveillance cameras

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by RB, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Seems warrantless searches are becoming more the norm than not.
    Might as well toss the Constitution, government ignores it when they want.

  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    This "court" is some isolated rube in black robes. I can't see this opinion being sustained by SCROTUS.
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Doubt it will make it to SCOTUS, appellate court will probably chuck it before the trial.

    It's also amazing how morons in law enforcement seem to have learned nothing from the death of U.S. Marshal William Degan at Ruby Ridge.
  4. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    They don't care. If another trespassing fed gets shot, they'll just burn everything down.
  5. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    It sounds as if the argument surrounds the definition of "curtilage." Apparently, this judge has the narrow perspective of a suburban cookie-cutter 1/4 acre lot. But, a legal definition would tend to reveal a broader definition, with phrases bolded that caught my eye:

    I have five acres of "curtilage." I reserve the right to remove, with prejudice, any non-organic object that I didn't place there or want to be there.
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    If you caught them on land posted No Trespassing, if they had no warrant, could you legally prosecute them? They have no legal reason to be there...other than noblesse oblige, which appears to be SOP for law enforcement these days.
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Good question.

    My family happens to have a few hundred acres. No house or other facilities on this property. From they way I understand this judges ruling police could enter the property, install surveillance, and record the goings on there.

    I'm pretty sure nothing is growing, happening, or anything else illegal wise is going on there but I still reject the idea that police can enter and surveil without cause. If they have cause then present the evidence to obtain a warrant.

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