DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by RB, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Watching the news this morning in the Dallas area video of a terminal at DFW airport showed very little traffic. No lines at the check in counters and TSA lanes almost empty. Now I have to say up front that it was early, around 6:30 AM but I have been in the airport at the same time of day and have seen packed terminals and packed TSA checkpoints.

    Either people are not flying or a massive effort is underway to minimize delays.

    If anyone else sees any reports from around the country please post.
     
  2. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    basing on the fact that im seeing deep discount buckets available for flights today on american im betting its a mix of the two. The day is young and only time will tell.
     
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    On Saturday there will be at least some people driving five hours instead of flying - solely because of the TSA.
     
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  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I just plugged in DFW/LAS and DFW/FLL, my typical routes, flights are available both today and Sunday for both routing's. Not as many departing FLL. Prices were not discounted or I don't know how to find the discounted prices. Did not log in to my AA account. Wish I knew a way to compare enplanements from today compared to the same day over the last few weeks.
     
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I could book last-minute one ways to STL ($308) or CHI ($202), plenty of seats at those prices. Before WN showed up & made honest airlines out of them, those used to be their normal gouges for those routes ... each way.
     
  6. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    First hand report from co-worker who arrived back in the country from Mexico at IAH yesterday, the terminal mid-afternoon was "Deserted" and they were the only ones on the shuttle bus.

    Hmmmm....
     
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  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Whoa, this article says T-giving air travel is down by 13% since 2000. That's pretty whopping.

    Air travel down during the Thanksgiving holiday by 13 percent

     
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

  10. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Boggie

    I was looking as DFW/SFO, DFW/LAX, DFW/MSY and DFW/SEA. I didnt find much in deep discount buckets for anything east of the Mississippi; using a combo of KVS, expert flyer and IATA matrix.

    As for enplanements that data would have to come from the airlines themselves and I dont think there willing to admit how much TSA has killed there business and people are driving instead of flying. Prime example of this is AA running its 3rd DEQM promo on select routes (DFW-LAX/SFO ORD-LAX/SFO) this year. Typically I would have been all over it but my qualification is done for the year and I dont feel like pushing for the next tier
     
  11. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Weather Channel reporter (we have it on in the office) outside ATL... "Airport officials telling us that this is the lightest day-before-thanksgiving they've seen in recent memory".

    National opt out day WAS scheduled for 2010, right? ;)
     
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  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    he he he. screw them all. The airlines let the TSA fondle their passengers' genitals, and now they reap the rewards. Let every last one of 'em go out of business.
     
  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    This is hard for me. As I've mentioned elsewhere here, my girlfriend's father and stepmother both work for WN and they're wonderful, wonderful people. Stepmom works in, I believe, customer service or some other administrative/managerial/corporate-office job and would be pretty well able to export her skillset. Dad, though, is a senior airplane mechanic and would have considerably more difficulty adapting to another market, especially since WN exclusively runs 737s and no other model. He'd have to find work with a charter airline or something like that.

    This all adds up to me hating, despising, detesting the TSA even more because it's their goddamn fault that the airlines are suffering. While I refuse to draw distinctions between TSA management and front-line smurf-clerks on the grounds that front-line smurf-clerks are the ones physically performing civil-rights violations, I will distinguish between airline senior execs and their employees when I say that airline CEOs deserve this for their tolerance of TSA but folks like my relatives do not.

    I wish there were a quicker way to get rid of TSA than letting the airlines starve. It's shameless personal interest, I know, but I hate to see the baby thrown out with the bathwater (unless it's a deformed Eraserhead baby as is the case with TSA).
     
  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Agreed. Unfortunately, you know how things work: the people on the bottom always suffer more than the people at the top. Just look at what's happening in the country in general. We bailed out the banksters, they're taking in huge profits, even bonuses, and millions of working people are out on their asses.
     
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  15. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA is the root issue but I believe the airlines themselves have to own up to their role in this by allowing TSA to abuse airline customers. The sad part is the working stiff ending up on the street but I don't see any other way for this to end up if the airlines don't step up and take control of their property.
     
  16. This weather story has a throwaway line about airlines dealing with "heavy volumes of traffic." I bet they're just used to saying that about Thanksgiving travel, though.
     
  17. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Tried to find current parking info for EWR but no luck. DIA however has most lots open, with only the economy lots being full. PHX is 1/2 to 2/3 full depending on which lot you want.
     
  18. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    It's called "wishful thinking"! :D
     
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  19. RB

    RB Founding Member

  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Enplanement data is reported to DOT but takes 3-4 months to collect and publish. 4Q financials might be more telling in the short run.
     

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