DHS Domestic Espionage

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Mike, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The PDF attachment (courtesy Cryptome & the UK Register) below is the 5 page list of web site that DHS admits to spying on.

    And Happy Friday the 13th! EPIC reportedly has filed suit to block DHS' domestic espionage program.

    Attached Files:

  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    This (PDF, again courtesy Cryptome) is EPIC's lawsuit to stop DHS' domestic espionage.

    Attached Files:

  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Wondering when the court will take up EPIC's filing?
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I'm looking at setting up a forum to discuss identifying & hindering or blocking DHS intrusions into a website, hopefully with offshore hosting & domain registration to minimize what DHS can do to interfere with it.
  5. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    It can get expensive and deciding which country you want to host from is ..... not obvious.

    I did some poking around into this a few years ago for a budding social networking site that was asking the same questions.
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The same site that Wikileaks used can be had for $10-15 monthly for the services that I need for a forum, and they will even set it up without knowing who I am, although I'm not really hiding that. I mainly want the data & domain registration out of reach.
  7. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    We'll call you Julian...
  8. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    Mike, you may even get a flight to Sweden!
  9. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    For a few brief moments I held my breath looking for TUG on that list.
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I have much better taste in Swedish women.
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It seems we not only have to identify DHS efforts to conduct domestic surveillance on the internet, we also have to ferret out their contractors ...

    New York Times (13 Jan 2012): Federal Contractor Monitored Social Network Sites

    This last part is most disturbing -- this transcends being a government "of the people".
  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    A non political agency has no business manipulating public opinion or monitoring public opinion beyond the established processes for citizen input on their agency's proposals. This is an abuse of their powers.
  13. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As always, follow the money!
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  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Progress is being made. I have the domain name & a temporary web page is in place:

    The goal is to make DHS & domestic surveillance personae non gratae in our society. Coincidentally, this pretty much goes hand-in-hand with recent posts by both Bruce Schneier and the Cato Institute:​

    David Rittgers (Cato Institute): Abolish the Department of Homeland Securit

    You'll need another name. I didn't use his ISP.
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  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Wired/Dangerroom (25 Jan 2012): Cairo Contagion: Military Tracks Uprising’s ‘Infectious’ Ideas

    First they present it as a military need ...

    But then they point out that such technology could be misused by "repressive" governments ...

    Given our recent trend in "homeland security", I'd say that's very much a legitimate fear right here at home.
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  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And the FBI wants to join the party:

    Breitbart (26 Jan 2012): FBI seeking social media monitoring tool

  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    There's another thread somewhere around here where we talked about this a few weeks ago.

    Sigh. So many rights-busting surveillance tools, so little time.
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And the lessons of the 60s & early 70s totally forgotten.
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  19. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Cointelpro anyone?
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  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Cointelpro was not just surveillance -- Cointelpro was all about active interference.
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