DHS Domestic Espionage

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Mike, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    You could always tell who the fed was: He was the one who wanted to blow (expletive deleted) up.
     
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  2. RB

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  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Article is based on 300 pages of docs that EPIC recently sprung loose via FOIA ...

    Infowars: Group Forces Congressional Hearing On Big Sis’ Twitter, Drudge Spying

     
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I love it! Of course we always knew they were monitoring sites, especially those that criticize the ugly-headed Hydra of "security." And now we have hard proof. Just think of all those full-time-salaried employees working hard To Keep Us Safe by spending their time reading sites such as TUG and putting us all on a list. Because we're such scary dangerous tewwowists! We are A Threat To This Great Nation!
     
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  6. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I think it's more that people who don't track this issue, or who don't fly, aren't even aware that it's happening. But millions upon millions of people use the Internet everyday and don't expect that their comings and goings from site to site are being monitored by the government. It's just too much like reading a book and having the government reading over your shoulder.
     
  7. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Agreed.

    Except in the comments, there's always that idiot:

    "I have nothing to hide! Read away!"

    (expletive deleted).
     
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  8. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Right. I always forget about that guy.
     
  9. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    How can you? He shows up all the time!

    Look, I have nothing to hide either. It's just that I don't want your nose in my damn business.

    (Not you, Sunny Goth, you're cool).
     
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  10. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    It's selective remembering. ;) That guy bugs me so much I like to forget he exists.

    I know exactly how you feel -- although I probably do have a few things that I'd rather have not see the light of day, but those are mostly photos of my more unfortunate fashion choices.

    Thanks. :)
     
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  11. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    They assume that there is some semblance of a basis for the surveillance that goes on and it's more targeted. They don't think everything and everyone is a subject. My son was startled by the story of the LA-headed UK couple, "DHS was reading their tweets?"
     
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  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Too many people are cowed by authority. "Well, he must've done something wrong." "Well, you must've given them a reason." "Well, there must be something behind this." Blah blah blah.
     
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  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I do sometimes get the impression that those excuses are defense mechanisms though. Not that people actually like licking the authoritarian boot (though it takes all kinds and I'm sure there are some out there), but that people are desperate to convince themselves that "It can't really be that bad. We don't have all the facts. There must have been a Good Reason(TM) for this." The alternative is accepting the fact that a police state is, depending on your views, on the horizing, forming, or already formed and we're living in the belly of the beast.
     
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  14. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Since when did the CIA become part of DHS? I'm sure DHS wishes it were so.
     
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  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Wired/ThreatLevel (16 Feb 2012): Lawmaker Demands DHS Cease Monitoring of Blogs, Social Media

     
  16. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I call BS on that statement. It's another lie out of the TSA.
     
  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I say we give them as much ammo as we can. Overload them. We know they're "monitoring" whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want. Fine. Let's make it worth their while.
     
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Actually I plan to give people tools with which to block them from their web sites.
     
  19. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The problem will being knowing who is DHS watchers since they will be using contractors. If it were me I wouldn't use a company name or such.
     
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Meanwhile, in the UK, they're jailing people for Facebook posts. For speech. (As they did in Canada with that woman about whom I posted a thread a few months ago.)

    From Arthur Silber's blog (and yes, he's dyspeptic, but also brilliantly sarcastic -- not everyone's cup of tea but certainly mine):
    Think it's not going to start happening here? Think again.
     

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