DHS Lawyer : Travelers Need Not Submit To TSA VIPR Teams

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by CelticWhisper, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member


    Very interesting.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Here is the email (but not the rest of the post) in its entirety. If it is indeed a communication from a government official, there is no copyright protection and it can be freely reproduced under the First Amendment:

    Give Fish credit for getting the email, however. The last time he printed an "anonymous" email related to DHS, they sent goons with administrative warrants to seize his laptop. Rather than fight it (a regular media outlet involved in the same incident turned theirs over to an attorney & had it quashed), Fish just caved & let them take his laptop, which they returned irreparably damaged.
  3. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    This email is interesting.

    How does an attorney in the office of General Counsel for DHS end an email with, "Our job in the Department of Homeland Security is to protect the United States and we do this by upholding the Constitution and The Law Of The Land," and approve electronic strip search or genital probes? Indeed, the tone of this email is encouraging, and yet we have the abhorrent nonsense we do in airports.

    What is this bizarre disconnect? I don't get it.
  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    But not enough backbone to sign their name.
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    As attorneys (esp. government attorneys) they have to be careful how & to whom they give legal advice.
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I suspect it is more fear of getting in a lurch with a boss rather than being careful giving legal advice.
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Fish is an odd bird. At times in the past, he has seemed to side with the TSA. I got into a brief debate with him once over it. And given how badly he's been treated by them, I have to wonder if a bit of Stockholm Syndrome might not have been at work. I'm glad to see he's coming around.
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  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Many people think TSA was holding something over his head for the SOP deal.
  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    thanks for posting that letter. it's good to know that not everyone in dhs/tsa is corrupt.

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