Video Disabled daughter traumatized by TSA at DFW

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    The child's face tells the story.

  2. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    The freedom fluffers involved should be identified and exposed.
  3. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I sent the OP a PM asking if they'd share the full story. Looks like an upset mother who only recorded a portion of the incident.
  4. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I believe Fisher posted a very short video on this little girl but I cannot find his original post. Here is the story behind the video:

    DALLAS -​

    A 12-year-old girl in a wheelchair was detained for nearly an hour at DFW Airport while trying to get through

    Shelbi Walser was traveling with her mother on Sunday for a trip that's become routine. The seventh grader lives with a genetic bone disorder and was on her way to Florida for another rare medical treatment.
    She's never had a problem flying, but this time Transportation Security Administration agents claimed she had bomb residue on her hands.
    "It was frightening. I kinda got mad," she said.
    The agents would not allow Tammy Daniels to get close to her crying daughter so she started recording on her cellphone.
    "Are you kidding me? We're going to get you out of here in a second, okay?" she said in the video.
    "I said, 'What do you mean? What did you test her for?' 'Oh she tested positive for explosive residue.' Okay… at that point you would think they would test her wheelchair, but they did nothing. Everything just seemed to spiral out," Daniels said.
    The mother and daughter said a bomb specialist showed up and several agents began talking on their cellphones all while other passengers were speaking up in support of the girl.
    "There were people saying, 'Really? You're going to do this to her? Y'all have to take her somewhere private where she's not out in the public and everyone can see her,'" Shelbi said.
    Daniels said the agents then suddenly told them they were free to go and offered no explanation about it being a false alarm or anything.
    "It was a little much. I don't know what to learn from this one. Somebody, they need to go back to the drawing board on this one," she said.
    The TSA responded to questions about the encounter with a statement that said in part, "TSA's mission is to safely, efficiently and respectfully screen nearly two million passengers each day at airports nationwide. We are sensitive to the concerns of passengers who were not satisfied with their screening experience and we invite those individuals to provide feedback to TSA through a variety of channels."

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  5. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I'm glad to see this story got picked up.

    How often does this happen and we never hear about it?
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  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    on the plus side, the TSA clerks did the right thing and ended up not rubbing their hands over this little kid's body and crotch. Now if they would show this same consideration to the rest of us, we'd be set.

    The tests they run for explosives are useless and result in people being very much harmed through the molestation that follows. This little kid could have been traumatized by it. It's about time TSA dropped the use of the ETD swabs unless they modify the reso protocols so innocent people are not put upon like this.
  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The TSA's spokesholes do so love to utter their lies in threes, don't they?
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  8. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I've long suspected that the false positives are deliberate. I'm not sure what the rationale for all these false positives are, but it's certain the TSA goons were 100 percent confident this child was not harboring explosives.

    Of course, they've never had a real positive - ever.
  9. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Turning tide? Nice vocal reaction by fellow passengers, not just gawking. I'm sure that helped persuade the j@ckarses on their cellphones to end the charade sooner rather than later.
  10. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I do not understand why the TSA has the authority to keep a parent from comforting a child who is a minor. If the mother was already screened what harm is caused by her physically comforting her daughter? More parents need to push back on this and do what they need to help their child regardless of what the TSA says. How many more rights is the TSA going to take away - now you have no parental rights at the airport?
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    We need more of that, and a few riots at checkpoints.

    But you know, in the years that I've following this closely, this is the first time I think I've ever read of onlookers responding like this. We can only hope that it starts happening a lot more often.
  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    To be successful, spin has to be somewhat close to the truth, or a plausible position taken on an issue. The TSA fails and makes itself a laughingstock because the words they trot out, as here, have no relation whatsoever to the TSA clerks' deeds. Nobody, absolutely nobody, thinks it "safe, efficient, and respectful" to molest a little girl's crotch over a test that fails 100% of the time like their ETD swab test. Even in America, nobody is going to buy that.

    Like Krazycat and Mike said, people are getting fed up.
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  13. People need to learn to push back about what they alarmed for on the ETD. They need to know that "explosive residue" is a complete lie, that they alarm for a chemical signature similar to explosive residue (did I phrase that right? English major here). They also need to ask what explosive, and if it's glycerin, make a big stink about how the test alarms on hand lotion and soap and just about every other toiletry known to man. And that's not even to mention that people need to get up in arms about how they don't test the swabs or gloves before they swab you, they don't necessarily change gloves unless you ask, the gloves might well come out of their pockets, and some of the machines are known to be faulty and yet they keep right on performing the ritual humiliation.

    The absurdity of the ETD pony show needs much more publicity.
  14. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    This new development is a very good thing. I do think that parents need to push back hard over the prohibition against comforting frightened children. Things really spiral out of control when the child realizes his/her parents have been prevented from touching them. It causes children to panic, and rightly so.
  15. RB

    RB Founding Member

    In regards to the highlighted text, do we know that wasn't done?
  16. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Do the machines indicate exactly what "explosive" is detected. I have read they are set to not alarm on gun shot residue. Apparently, the mother was asked if her daughter used any hand lotion that morning. That would indicate that the ETD detected nitroglycerin.

    I don't suppose Rugape will respond with an answer.

    I believe it was the push back from the other passengers that forced the TSA, finally, to let this child go. TSA didn't want a revolt on its hands.
  17. TSA News Blog

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    As we’ve reported many times, the TSA’s so-called explosive detection devices alarm routinely alarm on ordinary, everyday things. Have you been working in your garden? Oops. You might have fertilizer residue on you. Do you use hand or body lotions? Oops. There’s glycerin in them thar things. All those can get you hauled aside as a potential terrorist. Because fertilizer and glycerin show up as “bomb-making residue.”
    It happens all the time. TSA agents know it happens all the time. They even joke about it. And it just happened to a 12-year-0ld, wheelchair-bound child named Shelbi Walser. She was traveling with her mother for medical treatment when she was flagged by the TSA at Dallas-Forth Worth International Airport and detained for almost an hour. Shelbi’s mother’s name is Tammy Daniels.
    Daniels said a bomb specialist showed up and TSA agents prevented her from getting close to her crying daughter.
    Amazingly, the TSA didn’t bully Daniels as she recorded the incident on her cell phone. Video here.
    (Photo: Fox 4 via KMSP-TV Minneapolis)
  18. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    One of the reporters commented that the TSA's response showed no sympathy for what they had put the child through. It was good to hear her verbalize that instead of just accepting their comment at face value.
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  19. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The TSA ETD machines alarm on all manner of common everyday products. Lotions, salves, contact lens cleaner, and apparently they have no lower threshold so even the smallest trace of these items will cause an alarm. These devices are useless as a means to detect dangerous items.
  20. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    No, that would indicate the ETD detected "glycerin," not "nitroglycerin."

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