Does the TSA Give You Good Service? (HuffPo Poll)

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by CelticWhisper, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Balance really isn't part of the picture. I doubt that any of us here (with you being the only exception) care about "balance" when it come to TSA. We want to see TSA gone.

    What distinguished TSA News Blog at its inception was it's more professional style & demeanor. That has been lost, along with the intelligent contributions of its best contributor, Christopher Elliott.
  2. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...which is missed more at the TSA News Blog as they once had it. It's never missed at the TSA Blog, because they never had "professional style and demeanor" to begin with.

    I still wonder what dirt they picked up on Elliott to swing him - or if someone offered him money. One doesn't just swing their opinion like that without provocation.
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  3. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I agree with you on the balance comments. I also agree with you that the tone has changed.
  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TUG isn't the same format as TSA News. One is editorial based and the other is basically discussions among members about topics that interest the individual. If others want to join in on the discussion they are free to do so, can contribute, or just pass on that topic.

    I'm not going to slam either method as both have merits.
  5. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    In other news, the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

    Good customer service, such as it is with the current checkpoint security theatre, is this:

    • Trained Document Checker accepts my passport card without comment, and does not engage in any kind of Behavior Detection VooDoo.
    • I put my stuff on the x-ray belt without being barked at about liquids in my bag (and the x-ray operators stopped caring about that anyway).
    • Walk through the metal detector and take my stuff off the belt. No further encounters with TSA employees in the sterile area.
    • If I opt out of the Nude-O-Scope, a male assist promptly shows up. He complies with the SOP set forth by his employer by putting on fresh gloves and using fresh testing media out of the container when I ask them to. During their Grope Speechâ„¢ when they get to the part about asking if there is any sensitive areas they should know about, they don't freak out when I reply that my penis and testicles are indeed sensitive.
    Any deviations from the above, be prepared for some serious pushback from me.

    The person below could have very well been me, although I'm not venting my spleen, I'm giving TSA employees first hand instruction in how little their employer's theatre is valued by the traveling public.

    A Diamond is not going to get upset because of a WX delay in and of itself, but nice try in trying to disqualify their opinion. :rolleyes:

    Every person here in the boarding area has already gone through the screening process. Does your employer have no faith that it was done competently at the checkpoint? :p Well, except for the airline employees here that bypassed the checkpoint. Since they get caught with weapons in the sterile area on a regular basis, maybe you should check them instead. :rolleyes:

    You do realize that excusing actions because one is "just following government orders" has some serious historical implications, don't you?
  6. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Going to have to disagree with you, there. Nobody should ever have to ask one of the TSA gropers to put on a new pair of gloves or use known-clean test media.

  7. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    My complaint with Chris is that he "provided aid and comfort to the enemy". This fluff piece completely undermines everything he did before. This will be the piece that the AFSers cite to say "See, TSA has improved, even Chris Elliott has come around".

    The fact that he has a major book in the works isn't widely known so he can hide behind a false pretext of 'balance" when his likely motivation is to blunt his criticisms and emulate Frommer and Seaney so he will be properly packaged for distribution in the media.

    I stand by my assessment that he sold out.
  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Have you told him that?
  9. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I read the article and comments. Doubt you will be getting more editing work from Chris.:D
    You did good.
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Looking back over this thread, one that that was not stated at the top was that the article in question was written by Christopher Elliott. I thought the discussion of Christopher Elliot was incidental to the thread, until I went back and actually looked at the HuffPo article.

    The bastard really has sold out:

    Sorry, *ssh*l*, but there will be no love from me for the agency that sexually assaulted my wife, ever. Maybe you can pull up a chair next to Bloghad Bob and help him crank out some official drivel.
  12. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    It's interesting because this isn't the way the wind is blowing either. A lot of editorials are reprising what was in the Denver Post, coming out against VIPR, even calling for TSA to be revisited altogether (e.g. Talk should be on eliminating, not expanding, TSA).

    I'm encouraged that the "A" in AFS is a whole lot smaller these days, post NSA outrage. But I can imagine these agencies are feeling a little fear that their plug may be pulled, and looking at those they can silence.

    Chris is relatively high-profile. Notably, a top mgr in the move toward privatization at MCO suddenly just resigned. Individuals can be gotten to. But the country is going the other way.
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach


    Chris, we hardly knew ya.
  14. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  15. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Thanks ;)
  16. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Same from me. ;)^

    Don't forget to vote in the poll at the end of the article. Not scientific, but the message is clear:

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  17. RB

    RB Founding Member

    They closed the comments. When you don't like how the game is going just change the rules.
  18. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    You got that 100% correct, RB. Don't like comments being posted, close the thread.
  19. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Or don't like how the vote is going, so substitute and flip the question, (so No and Yes vote meanings reverse).
  20. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Could be confirmation of a flip-flop by Elliott. I think his objective was to unwind his past criticism of TSA for commercial gain and that he would tweak the article and poll to get the results he wanted.

    I may be completely wrong about Chris, but he will have to redeem himself before I trust him again.

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