Discussion in 'Other Aspects of Aviation Security' started by KrazyKat, Feb 6, 2012.
I'm a lot more interested in my own anti-aircraft defenses than my own air force.
Amen. Ammo is alot cheaper by a long shot
If we take a look at multiple recent events I think there is real cause for concern.
Recently we have had military operations inside our citites and landings on our beaches. Legislation has been passed that allows for long term detention without warrant of citizens. We see an increase use of military equipment being used to surveil not enemies of the state but its citizens and apparently again without warrant or cause.
Anyone feeling like the deer caught in the headlights?
Yes. Go on over and watch that Bruce Fein/Ralph Nader video I posted in the Civil Rights forum. They really kick (expletive deleted).
Follow the money.
Exclusive: PowerPoint Shows Drone Industry’s Lobbying Plan To Expand Over Domestic, Law Enforcement Markets
Why am I not surprised?
This made the front page of the NY Times on-line edition. The comments are not supportive.
Back to the drones, Full or Super Full and 10 or 12 gauge?
Depends on really on how much of a powder charge you have if it can reach, but the 10ga will get you more altitude. I would go full choke but thats me.
Ask these guys:
Times and Democrat: Animal rights group says drone shot down
Check this picture out.
So, when Grampa wanders away from the retirement home, they suit up in body armor? Do they battle brush fires with full-auto AR-15s?
300K for a 3K helicopter kit.... Wow over priced junk that could be disabled with a 22 pistol.
Yeah, that's starting to get in the territory of what a used Bell 206 goes for. Just for kicks, I'm flipping through a recent Trade-A-Plane and found this ad:
I think somebody's watched Blue Thunder too many times.
That concept is interesting. As a teen I lived with the family that ran one of the larger Search & Rescues in northern Idaho. It can be very difficult to get poeple out into that terrain. They almost always found the person but occasionally didn't. One time they didn't involved someone who had died in his car along an old road.
$300K? Easy -- think of GPS guided grid searches, video relayed to & saved at a ground station where it could be reviewed later to see if anything was over looked, infrared sensors.
Drones can fly lower & slower more safely and look directly downward. The electronic optics that are available today are incredible.
Yes, I see this an excellent application for drones.
And when they're not looking for missing hunters & grannies, it will probably be surveying for marijuana patches.
Yeah i was just thinking that. Then again for that helicopter im not worried about cost or the fuel bill.... it's the ammo bill at 2-6K rounds a min of 7.62 that hurts.
Another good story on this with lots of info:
And here's an extra-scary article about bug-sized drones I just saw. The drones may be bug-sized and --- common.
Smile for the drone: Coming to police stations near you soon
In 90 short days and counting down, it will be smile for the camera flying overhead, American citizens. Perhaps you should buy a baseball cap now to help in hiding your features from eye in the sky drones before buying a hat also becomes another ridiculous "suspicious" potential terrorist activity for SAR databases? Is that taking it too far when drones are capable of almost constant surveillance? The ACLU warned surveillance drones are coming to a police department near you. When the EFF, ALCU and EPIC all sound a red alert warning about Big Brother's prying eyes, if you care about your privacy then it would be wise to heed it.
Never mind the baseball hat, our tin hats will work just fine!
"Too far"? Ha! Dream on.
A couple of quick notes --
There's a link near the bottom of the article I posted today where you can sign EPIC's petition. Please consider signing it.
One small piece of positive news.... We still have the Kyllo case that says law enforcement needs a warrant if they want to 'see through the walls' of our houses. The flip side is that Scalia commented (in dicta) that once a particular technology becomes available to the public and its use becomes common, we might lose that privacy protection.
Once we can start getting all of our drones up in the air and be able to 'watch the watchers', will we lose protection against intrusive uses of the drones?
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