Dying woman humiliated by revealing TSA pat-down

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Have you read the comments accompanying this article on KCTV5:


    Initially, they were all pro-TSA and apparently any anti-TSA comments were "flagged" and removed, but some were reinstated by someone named DeAnn, who asks readers to e-mail her concerning the site's TOS but one can't find an e-mail address on the site for this DeAnn person.

    My comment was removed 5-10 minutes after it went up. I guess DeAnn didn't like my calling pro-TSA commenters AFSers or wishing them gropes from the TSA the next time they took an airplane.

    ETA: Looks like Bill addressed the station's issues:

  2. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    The FCC requires public comment files for a reason. Give them some explaining to do when renewal time comes around and there's a whole pile of "This station is not broadcasting in the public interest" letters.
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Then we need to add our voice to the discussion at KCTV5. Be extra careful to just accuse TSA of all manner of disgusting behavior and not other commenters.
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    You have this dying woman who has nothing to gain by lying about this, is credible, vs the TSA which has lied about what they've been doing since October 2010. Do they really believe their own lies, that the backscatter nude imaging does not constitute a strip search, or that "resistance" is not direct genital contact through clothing? They lie and lie, and then think everyone has bought the lies. Public opinion is rewarding their "truthfulness" here and will do so in every case where TSA disputes someone's account.
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  5. TSA News Blog

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    The TSA has a lesson to teach you. And by George, you’re going to learn it.​
    Apparently it’s not enough that the TSA humiliates breast cancer survivors, disabled children, the elderly, and — let’s face it — anyone and everyone. It’s not enough that they punish people — and admit to punishing people, even when that admission is captured on video, even when it’s recorded in court proceedings. It’s not enough that they harass people just for the (expletive deleted) of it. It’s not enough that thousands upon thousands of cases of TSA abuse have been documented. It’s not enough that people who’ve been assaulted have told their stories, using their real names, in the pages of newspapers and here at TSA News.
    It’s not enough that the TSA’s procedures are demonstrably absurd. It’s not enough that those procedures have been proven to be ineffective and pointless. It’s not enough that the TSA lies, even to Congress. It’s not enough that they flout the law. Repeatedly. It’s not enough that they employ criminals and sexual predators. It’s not enough that thievery is endemic. It’s not enough that we have evidence on top of evidence.
    No, it’s not enough. Because we still have lots of people out there who don’t get it. Who think that the TSA’s actions are just fine.
    So the TSA wants to make sure you get it.
    To that end, they add to their list of victims regularly. Michelle Dunaj can tell you all about it.
    Michelle Dunaj is dying of leukemia. She was going on a trip to Hawaii (probably the last trip of her life since she’s entering hospice on October 17th). She travels with a lot of medication. She has medical tubes going into her body, and bandages covering those tubes. She had called ahead to find out exactly what she would have to do to comply with TSA screening and to protect her medications and tubes.
    But the TSA wanted to see those medical devices. They wanted to see them so badly, that they lifted up Michelle Dunaj’s shirt and exposed her skin and tubes and bandages for everyone else to see, too. Even though she had requested a private room for a private search, which is her right, and which the TSA constantly claims is available upon request (we’ll leave aside the fact that you’re more, not less, likely to be abused in a private room), they refused to grant her request.
    But that’s not all. The TSA also punctured one of Dunaj’s bags containing saline solution, which she needs to survive.
    And still that’s not all.
    Then they told her to “move along,” as if she were holding up their precious line. Because, of course, so many busy people with busy schedules, people more important than Michelle Dunaj, had to get on with their busy lives, and god forbid they should be held up for 60 seconds by a woman with leukemia who’d just been abused by the agency so many of them still defend.
    Dunaj says she’s telling her story so that — you guessed it — “it never happens again.” But of course it will happen again. We know it will happen again. It has happened countless times, and it will happen countless more. We’ve documented those times, the ones we were able to find about. Most of them we’ll never find out about. Most people don’t have access to reporters, to newspapers, to TV stations. Most people tell their stories only to family and friends, and sometimes, not even then, because they’re too humiliated.
    But none of that matters. We know that millions of people still choose to live in denial. They will refuse to believe Michelle Dunaj’s story. They will blame her. Just as they blame this breast cancer survivor.
    I thought for a long time that simple presentation of the facts, that empirical evidence, statistical analysis, risk assessment, logic would persuade people. That facts, when placed squarely in front of one’s face, are impossible to deny.
    But I was wrong. The TSA and its apologists have proved me wrong. They demonstrate, every day, that facts don’t matter.
    So let me dispense with facts and present my opinion: the TSA is a criminal agency. It abuses people with impunity. Its leaders, Janet Napolitano and, especially, John Pistole, deserve to be fired and criminally prosecuted. The elected representatives who defend the TSA and continue to allow this abuse are complicit.
    And you, dear reader, if you defend the TSA, are also complicit. If you shrug your shoulders and spout such inanities as, “nothing bad has ever happened to me,” then you are implying that it’s okay if something bad happens to someone else, as long as it doesn’t happen to you. You are aiding and abetting the TSA. You are aiding and abetting the abuse of your fellow human beings. At least have the guts to admit it.
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  6. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Not really, sea-tac seems to be a hot bed of idiocy.

    My last trip through I was a heartbeat away from laying into two idiots with two stripes infront of several hundred people standing in line, over ID rules being pulled out of posteriors .
  7. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Fish, handed over his computer to TSA when the TSA Screening Manual was shown to be improperly redacted by TSA.

    I believe he has been in TSA's pocket ever since.
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    He's had zero credibility with me ever since he immediately surrendered his laptop based on an improper subpoena (when the other other target's lawyer started asking questions, DHS withdrew the subpoena), got his laptop back damaged, and proceeded to suck up to them and get all lovey dovey. He's a worthless source of information.
  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Not to mention that he "debunked" the woman's story by quoting exclusively TSA sources. That's quite a debunking. Let's do an investigation where we accept a statement from the party being investigated and go no further. I thought it rich when the TSA source said "I wish we *would* release the tapes". Yeah, we do too. Why don't you?

    And why you're at it, why don't you add audio capability to those video cams? The TSA clearly doesn't want audio, there's nothing there but pain in that for them because then everyone would learn what their screeners are like at the checkpoints. Cops have audio on their dash cams, the TSA should have audio at their checkpoints. To protect EVERYONE.
  11. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I might have missed it, but I don't recall in any of the statements regarding this incident coming from the TSA that they asked the particular screener in question if the passenger did indeed ask for a private screening. Not that the screener would tell the truth but wouldn't the first course of action be to talk to the screener? All I've read is that the TSA looked at the video - well, there was a TSA employee involved in this and was she questioned?
  12. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    What's the point? Whenever the video shows the TSA being "inappropriate," the footage is lost or "too fuzzy." Any bets on whether the audio would be "too garbled" to indict the TSA for misbehaving yet again?
  13. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Which is why Freedom Fluffers get mad when you attempt to record their misdeeds at the airport, and take illegal actions against it.
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