Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by RB, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    We are now less than a month away from what may be the most important elections of our life time.

    Most of us here realize how screwed up DHS is. Many of us know that Justice is problematic. Now with the recent attack on our embassy and no response from the U.S. mixed in with an apparent cover-up by State just about every Obama Cabinet member has demonstrated questionable ethics and certainly seem to lack leadership.

    I don't know if Mitt will or could do better but I do believe he is at least an honest and honorable person. Those traits are in sharp contrast to what we now have in the White House.

    I'm not going to tell anyone how to vote but please do look at the big picture.

    Hope to see everyone at the polls on Tuesday, November 6, 2012.
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  2. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    You'll definitely see me (in a manner of speaking) at the polls. Will be voting either Stein or Johnson - still not 100% sure, but leaning slightly toward Johnson for the simple reason that he's the only candidate who's flat-out stated "If I'm elected, TSA abuses at airports will stop." I don't agree with his personal beliefs on a few things, but he also comes across as being able to differentiate between his beliefs as a person and his (would-be) job as POTUS, so I'm not overly worried.

    I agree with Stein's politics more overall, which is what's keeping her in the running for me, and I love that she's explicitly in favor of strengthening protections for protests like Occupy and other establishment-threatening movements, but Johnson's unequivocal anti-TSA stand is a very powerful thing.

    My friends think I'm crazy for being a single-issue voter, especially in the face of nonstop pressure from HRC, ACLU, Planned Parenthood, and other mainstream-liberal activist groups on matters such as reproductive freedom, church-state separation, LGBT rights, etc., but none of the potential outcomes of those topics have actually literally given me nightmares. When you dream wonderful things about trains and wake up in a cold sweat after dreaming about airports, that's probably telling you something.

    So I'll be single-issue voting wherever possible in November, and where TSA is not applicable, my policy is "vote incumbents out." No matter their party or voting history, if they're in office now, I vote against them. Let's take away as many Washington jobs as we can this election. Only way I see to put the fear of The People back into the hearts and minds of Congress.

    Needless to say, that last paragraph goes double for Obama.
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    My sole exception to this would be to vote to re-elect those that voted *against* the NDAA.
  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The idea of voting for Steien, Johnson, or any other third pary candidate sounds good but the reality of that act is an effective vote for Obama. Guess it doens't matter if that is who you wish to win.

    Here in Texas we don't get much say in the Presidential race since the real contest is in swing states but I don't want to take a chance either.
  5. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

  6. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Got my absentee ballot yesterday. The biggest vote I've got is the chance to vote the current Sheriff of Jefferson County WV out of office before the feds send him to Allenwood.
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Texas is in a period of early voting and I was able to vote in my town today. Couple of observations. The polling place was busy. Open 8 to 8 and there was a steady stream of people while I was there. Now this is a fairly small community, there was as I recall 4 or 5 electronic ballot machines and the same for paper ballots. As I was waiting my turn to go through the process I noted that all of the electronic ballot machines were in use with people waiting and perhaps just one of the paper ballot booths in use. I picked a paper ballot and after reviewing all candidates ended up voting a straight ticket. If my observation is of any count then I believe the turnout will be high in this area. Don't know if that will be so everywhere. Also most of the people I saw voting were middle age adults are older. The oldest person I saw had to use a walker to get around but she did vote.

    Now I didn't mention parties, political affiliations, or anything else that would be considered one side or the other, so one last thing.

    If Obama is bounced out of the White House can he draw unemployment?
  8. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    My SO in Charles Town WV reported similar today. The line for early voting (first time weekend voting allowed) stretched around the block.

    I wonder how many Democrat Primary voters who voted for the convicted felon are today voting ABO.

    "If Obama is bounced out of the White House can he draw unemployment?"

    No, because his pension exceeds benefits. That's right, we pay a pension to a clown voted out of office.
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Early voting ended today here in Texas. Now on to the show.

    I truly hope that both Nappy and Pissy are filing for unemployment here in a few months.
  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Just a matter of hours before the polls open. I think this election will be historic. Lord help us to choose wisely.
  11. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    I chose my anti-TSA third-party candidate, with pride.
    They should have to do that no matter what. The election is no longer an excuse.
    Accountability for the financial and personal assaults, and those to our liberties, can start with showing no agency is above the law. Let's see how TSA handles their pre-April Fool's 2013 rulemaking deadline.

    Let's see how the Court countenances lies and post-hoc reasoning, based on later generation AIT (while ignoring it'll be attached to backscatter devices).
    Show how knowingly ineffective the current technology is.
    Show the sheer volume of decisions, the contracts knowingly let on failed or faulty technology.
    Show the agency ignoring human health information in its own record. Known harm.

    Let's see how such "emergency" measures, like contracting carried out over such a long time, is still excluded from review under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), as part of their deferred rulemaking. NEPA requires analysis of the rule (and the actions connected to it) to consider and discuss the effects and impacts on humankind.
    Show their actions just during the period of delayed court-ordered rulemaking, to choose backscatter technology, to force submission to radiation or invasive groping as a condition of flight.
    Let TSA cook in their own administrative law juices.

    Let's make it loud and clear instantly that this election does not = approval for TSA, no matter the outcome.
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  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    4 more years of the same do nothing President.

    Makes a person want a drink.
  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

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  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I voted for a winner for a change?

    Cool. I think he'll be easier for Congress to keep in check, especially (as usually happens) the other party picks up seats in the mid-term elections.

    I was still undecided when we left to vote this morning, to Tweedle Dee to Tweedle Dum, 'twas a hoary decision to be made on dreary midwestern Tuesday morning.
  15. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    We're screwed either way. How did Gary make out? He's not even getting a mention on TV.
  16. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I'm hoping beyond hope that he got 5% or better.
  17. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Looking like about 4.5%.
  18. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I thought it was only 1.1% that he got.

    I'm disappointed as (expletive deleted) in this election. I realize that I wouldn't be happy no matter how it turned out (unless Stein or Johnson actually won the presidency) but while all my friends are celebrating Obama's victory, all I can think is "4 more years of Obama-style TSA."

    *shrug* I don't love this country.

  19. I agree wholeheartedly. I thought change was supposed to be something we believe in, or whatever. Now here we are, right back where we were. I'm sad to say I don't love this country anymore, either. And I really, really did.

    Not like Romney would have made much difference. I didn't even vote for him. But I was hoping for a new face to look at with disdain. Just to keep life interesting.
  20. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    I believed Romney could bring this country back to prosperity through job growth, spending cuts, energy independence AND TSA reform but now I'm so damn shocked and surprised that half the country wants and all of us will get same old, same old or worse...
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