escapee from the other site

Discussion in 'New Users' started by TXFlyer, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    LOL! Yes, they are disgusting. That is primarily why I had him on my Ignore List almost from the get-go "over there."
     
  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Ah, yes, we all know who that is!

    Could you put up a link to your comments at the other place, please and thank you.

    Found it.
     
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    SATTSO or Bart, although I think Bart was banned for life.
     
  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Yep. Just like me. :D
     
  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Your response was excellent.
     
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It's not your concern. It's up to TXFlyer.
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Sounds like SATTSO. He flamed out here very quickly after TUG was started, but he's welcome to return & provide us with further entertainment at any time.
     
  8. TXFlyer

    TXFlyer Member

    Yeah, SATTSO. Couldn't remember if it was that or some other combination of letters.

    And like I said, it wasn't anything to really take seriously. Just the "Please don't take this as a threat" and fact he sent it privately. In my opinion, discussions such as this need to take place in public, with complete transparency.

    Anyway, here's the paragraph in question:
    "Please do not take this as a threat, but if at those airports where TSA sticks to the court ruling, but the passenger absolutely refuses to be further screened, I am positive that passenger would be reported to regulatory and a fine would be levied."
     
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Mike I wasn't suggesting it was. I was responding to your post # 17 only, nothing more.
     
  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Sharon Cissna of Alaska was flagged in a scanner at Seattle and refused the grope. She was not fined. I believe Seattle is in the in 9th circuit's jurisdiction, no? As usual, SATTSO is full of sh*t. I'm still waiting for those wonderful new changes he promised back almost a year ago.
     
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  11. TXFlyer

    TXFlyer Member

    Unfortunately, I think a private citizen is much more likely to be fined than an elected official (even if they did threaten her). She's also unlikely to lose her job for not being at an appointed place at an appointed time.
     
  12. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Oh our good buddy SATTSO. Hmm isn't that ironic, and I have business in Houston & San Antonio areas next week; driving of course as flying is too expensive and time consuming. Saber rattling anyone :D

    Flame out, more like run and hide like a little &itch after he opened his mouth and made some very stupid remarks. Summarily got called on the carpet and had someone make a B-line for SAT to see if he'd put his money where his keyboard was. SATTSO is coward who hides behind a keyboard.
     
  13. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    He was probably talking about the drug called PreCheck (as CW so aptly dubbed it ^ )! Oh, yea, that took off like a lead baloon...:rolleyes:
     
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  14. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Erm...was that me? I thought that was Lisa or Mike.
     
  15. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  16. TXFlyer

    TXFlyer Member

    PreCheck may be a drug, but it's the only thing that's kept me out of jail lately.

    Reading even more, I don't know if I belong here. I don't believe not flying anymore is a solution to anything (especially as a geographically isolated person with ZERO choice in where she lives). And as much as I'd love to be arrested if that's what it takes, there's a couple very valid reasons why I can't take civil disobedience that far.
     
  17. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    You don't have to swear off flying to be a member of TUG - we all fight the good fight in our own ways. Some of us are in situations where we have to fly, whether for work, family/medical situations, or what-have-you. You have a sense that something is wrong with TSA and the presence of mind to want to do something about it. Culturally speaking, that's all you need to fit in here. If we're talking about just the letter of the law at TUG, you don't even need to go that far - TSA employees themselves are permitted to register and post here.

    I'm in a similar boat to you - arrest is not an option for me due to circumstances beyond my control. I make up for it, though, with my words - Congressional letters, responses to news articles, etc. I've been (exceedingly flatteringly) called "the rhetoric whisperer" for some of the things I've written and to me, that's enough to compensate for my inability to fight on the "front lines."

    You do what you can and you do what you must. As long as you're not wantonly starting (expletive deleted) and antagonizing forum members, you're as welcome as anyone.
     
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  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    There are many ways to protest, not just one. There are many ways to resist, not just one. As long as you resist somehow; that's the point.
     
  19. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Please stay. As other have said, each of us protests the TSA in our own way; there is no right or wrong way to do so. The more voices that are heard, the sooner this reign of terror will come to an end.
     
  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    You do need to reconcile yourself to the fact the PreCheck will not protect you from being groped. TSA has indicated their intent to offer PreCheck on a "per flight" bases, details here:


    You can reduce your odds of getting groped, but if you have to fly, you can't avoid it entirely.

    This is one of the things that will help us win in the long run. One by one, those who thought they had evaded being assaulted by TSA's perverts will be learning otherwise, and we will win this one grope at a time.

    Not flying is an excellent option, if you can manage it. Historically security was the airlines' responsibility. They are now hooked on TSA because it relieves them of an enormous cost center -- they pay a fix rate based what they were spending for security 10 years ago, with passengers & taxpayers picking up the balance. However, this comes at a cost -- industry growth is stagnant and beginning to show signs of decline, while alternative modes of transportation (rail & auto) are showing siginificant gains. Eventually that will have a price -- either airlines retake control of their industry or they will start going under.

    My wife & I have both gone from traveling 250-300K miles annually between the two of us to zero. I have no trouble finding other ways to amuse myself (this site is one such diversion :) ) and there are plenty of places we visit regionally by car (e.g. Denver, St. Louis, Black Hill, Oshkosh). We do quite well without the airlines and quite well without the gropes. It was a tremendous lifestyle change to give up all those weekend mileage runs to Europe & Australia as well as the restructuring our longer vacations, but the peace of mind has been well worth it.
     
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