Expended single-shot rocket laucher "startles" screeners

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Shouldn't it be obvious in the x-ray and esp. manual inspection that a critical component -- the rocket -- is missing????

    Duh!

    Government Security News: Rocket launcher, inert grenades and stun guns found at TSA checkpoints

    The rocket launcher was found in the checked bags of a passenger at the Arnold Palmer Regional Airport in Latrobe, PA, according to a Dec. 7 post by TSA’s “Blogger Bob” Burns. The single-shot AT-4 rocket launcher was expended and posed no dangers, he said, but it startled baggage screeners when it was detected by screeners in the checked baggage.
     
  2. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I'd like to startle a few baggage screeners - oh wait, I think I mean throttle.
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    As would I. Not flying helps keep me out of prison. :)

    But seriously, can't these dorks see that the thing inside the tube that flies out and goes "boom" is missing?????
     
  4. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    What a strange, strange article.

    The article starts out with this:

    TSA baggage screeners turned up dozens of stun guns in passengers’ carry-on bags and even a rocket launcher at airport security checkpoints across the nation the week of Dec. 3.

    Then it follows with this:

    The rocket launcher was found in the checked bags of a passenger

    So it wasn't actually at an airport security checkpoint, unless they're calling the areas where checked bags are screened, and passengers aren't allowed, a 'checkpoint'.

    Then there's the whole 'startled' statement. They were startled? What else did they do? Do they have procedures for dealing with potentially dangerous items like rocket launchers? Something beyond being 'startled'? And yeah, are they not trained to know when one is empty and when one is not?

    And about those inert grenades:

    They can cause significant delays because screeners have to take precautions

    And what would those be? I don't know exactly how grenades work, and all I've seen are movie grenades (and holy hand grenades), and those all work by pulling something out of the grenade and then throwing the thing far away from you. If someone had a live grenade at a checkpoint, by the time a screener saw it come through the x-ray, wouldn't it have gone off already?

    I can't tell if the article is trying to show us how brave the screeners are because they find all of these potentially dangerous items, or if the article is pointing out to us what clowns these people are. I can read it either way.
     
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Obvious to the people who confiscated a plastic toy hammer from a disabled man?

    I don't think so!
     
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  6. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    They made a little poo in their pants...:oops:
    I read it this way: I can tell from reading the article (really, any article about the TSA) what clowns they are. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I'm still chuckling to myself over your post. Good one. :)
     
  8. I don't like the "startled" bit either. If the role of the TSA is so critical that I have to give up my privacy and the security of my person and possessions to fly on a plane, I want the people carrying out those violations to be focused and cool as cucumbers under any circumstances. Not shaking in their tennies at the sight of something odd. If they startled at this, what would they do if they encountered a live ticking bomb?
     
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    You mean one with lots of wires & switches & Blinkenlichten like a real bomb in the movies?

    A "ticking" bomb today is likely to be driven by a few computer chips on a (usually green) circuit board. Pan Am 103 was brought down by a timer circuit board (today there are countless turn-key interface boards that are commercially available) plus 12 ounces of PETN inside a Toshiba cassette player.

    From what it seems they're looking for (e.g. the watch in Oakland), I seriously doubt that these bozos would even notice the real & much more inconspicuous thing unless their ETD equipment gets a whiff of the business end of the apparatus.
     
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  10. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    And that's really the kicker, isn't it? I'm reasonably sure, well, somewhat sure, well maybe a little bit sure, okay, not all that sure, that any given screener will be able to find the obvious threats - guns, knives, inert grenades, etc. But something like you describe? Something inconspicuous, and maybe in pieces? I'm positive that it would get missed. And then we'll fight the last war on that thing too.
     
  11. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  12. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I truly believe it is boredom, complacency and ineptitude by the TSA that's going to get somebody killed one of these days.
     
  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Or a purse with a stamped metal gun-shaped decoration on it?

    Or a carved wooden flintlock pistol toy?

    Honestly, I'm not surprised at all what they pretend to be "startled" by.
     
  14. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    It's far more likely that they'd be killed by cops overreacting to the nonsense the TSA spews than anything else. Look what happened to Star Simpson.

    http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/star-simpson-one-yea.html
     
  15. Wow. That was awful. I vaguely remember that but I had no idea how badly it played out.
     
  16. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Yep. "See Something, Say Something, Kill Someone."
     
  17. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    So basically, a pipe with a handle was in a checked bag but "startled" a few of the morons who were sufficiently aware of their surroundings or busy looking for loot.

    It doesn't say they confiscated it, nor should they, so why report it? Just another BS propaganda headline to pump up their positive reporting metrics.
     

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