Federal Audit To Investigate Honolulu TSA Operations

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I liked how the video blocked out the faces of some of the screeners, something normally reserved for accused criminals. Great job by the producer to cast TSA in a disparaging light. They certainly deserve it.


    Unfortunately, I expect that this will get whitewashed and no one will be punished.
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I feel that Justice should conduct an investigation on the whole of TSA.
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  3. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Probably needs to be Congress for now or Justice after a new administration is in place. Holder certainly won't do it.
  4. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    I understand the cynicism and skepticism.

    However, rumor has it that this was one royal screw-up. Don't know exactly how these folks will be punished other than being fired and never being hired by federal government again. In terms of security screening policy, they blatantly violated it. In terms of criminal law, only a lawyer can address that. They took shortcuts in screening procedure. At worst, they may be guilty of negligence and incompetence, but I don't know what criminal punishment applies under the law other than a failure to follow proper federal security procedures.

    If it goes to trial, prosecutors will try to prove that these actions potentially endangered the safety of passengers and degraded the public's trust in airport security screening procedures. I imagine that the defense may even concede that they failed to follow procedure but never with the intent of endangering passengers and with the belief that these shortcuts never actually weakened security.

    What makes this interesting is that this comes during the advent of risk based security, which calls for less scrutiny for low-risk passengers.

    At the end of the day, they're still going to be fired and still lose their eligibility to be rehired by the federal government.
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    If the screening procedures really create a layer of safety then not doing them clearly places the people on those planes in a more dangerous environment. I think the current risk in commercial aviation to be pretty low so I don't see the risk being that much greater with substandard screening procedures yet TSA claims the need to screen to these standards so not doing so places people in jeopardy.

    What I would like to know is where the direction came to shortcut procedures. I doubt it just happened. If it was from FSD, AFSD, or such high level person then that person or persons should be held legally accountable. For the worker bees I'm not sure legal charges would really make a difference but do think they should be fired unless mitigating circumstances are present.
  6. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    I truly don't know any more about this than you or anyone else. My guess is that the FSD was directly involved simply because he was included in the list of those who were initially fired.

    I agree with you in principle that short-cutting screening procedures increases the potential of something bad happening. I just don't know how it will play in a courtroom, if it goes to court. I'm reminded of an espionage case involving a soldier who allegedly sold classified information via the internet. The web was a relatively new phenomenon at that time, and the government's case was difficult to establish because many of the jurors didn't understand the sophistication of the internet. Bottom line is that the government could not prove espionage, and the soldier was convicted of lesser charges of security procedures violations. I see something similar happening in this case. I don't want to see it happen that way, but I think that's how it's probably going to play out.
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I guess part of what I was saying is if leadership put a lot of pressure on the workers to do certain things those people were caught in a Catch 22 (at least they probably felt that way) and did what the bosses wanted. All should be disciplined but the degree should be based on the role played by each individual.

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