Fiona Apple Arrested For Drugs At Internal Immigration Checkpoint

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by FliesWay2Much, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    Wow -- If there was ever an opportunity to challenge suspicionless internal border checkpoints inside the Constitution-Free Zone, she certainly has the resources to get herself a good lawyer and get the job done. Apparently, citizenship interrogations weren't enough. They also run the drug dog around your vehicle while you are "briefly detained."

    (Coached by Mike to remove the HTML codes -- don't use them! They prevent people from clicking on the links. :( )
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Thought the dog was to find hidden people.
  3. Oh, sweet, naive RB. ;)
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    They are not supposed to be using the dog unless they have reasonable suspicion. Period.

    And on the subject of looking for "hidden" people, how would the dog know if Mexicans were hidden on the bus? Do they smell "Mexican"?

    The interaction for most of us is supposed to be:

    Have a nice day, sir.​
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Moving this to "Civil Rights", where it can join its next of kin, the Snoop-Dogg-allegedly-medical-doobie bust thread.
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I hope she fights them and then sues them for civil liberties violations. Filthy putzes. They're gonna wake up someday and find themselves pretty damn lonely and hung out to dry.
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    This Texas checkpoint is small stuff compared to what goes on at a checkpoint near Yuma where the Border Patrol agents are deputized by Yuma County to write local citations. They've literally been catching thousands of marijuana users. This story is from 2008 ...

    Phoenix New Times: Border Patrol checkpoints near Yuma nab hordes of pot users headed back from the beach

    Many of the busted marijuana users interviewed by New Times wondered whether Border Patrol agents had too much time on their hands, considering that agents expend so much effort to catch people carrying mostly minuscule amounts of pot. Others wondered whether Operation Citation was just a clever way to pour money into the Yuma County coffers.
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Here's Fiona Apple's muggie ...

    fiona apple muggie.jpg
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Can somebody translate this? Is she on our side, or just nuts?

    I sincerely hope that she's level-headed enough to engage an attorney and help put an end to the Himmleresque internal checkpoints in the supposedly "free" United States of America.

    Huffington Post: Fiona Apple Talks Jail Experience: Singer Makes Allegations Of 'Inappropriate' & 'Illegal' Conduct (VIDEO)

    Last night, she made her first public statement about the experience, and claimed that people associated with her arrest, acted in an "inappropriate and probably illegal" manner:
    "Now, most of the people were very nice to me. There are four of you out there, and I want you to know that I heard everything you did. I wrote it all down with your names and everything you did and said stupidly thinking that I couldn't hear or see you. I then ripped the paper up, but not before I encoded it and-- I got two lock boxes. We'll call them "holding cell one" and "holding cell two". In "holding cell one" is the encoded version of the (expletive deleted) that you did that I know was inappropriate and probably illegal. In "holding cell two" is the decoder. I'm the only one who holds the key, and you and I will be intimate forever because I will hold that secret forever. Unless of course the celebrity that you had so much interest in but you wanted to accuse me of bringing up while you laughed at me all night? Unless you're interested in being a celebrity, I'll make you f**king famous any time you ask and I'll open those boxes. So why don't you stay in your f**king holding cell?"​
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    UK Daily Mail: Marijuana smoking celebrities not welcome! The Texas town that has arrested drug-using stars Fiona Apple, Snoop Dogg, Armie Hammer, Willie Nelson AND Paul Wall

    Having spent Wednesday night locked up in a Texan jail after allegedly being busted with hashish on her tour bus Fiona Apple is likely feeling hard done by. But at least the singer-songwriter can console herself that she's far from the first celebrity to be caught with marijuana in the west Texan town of Sierra Blanca. By gracing the town's Hudspeth County Jail, the 35-year-old songstress follows in the footsteps of Willie Nelson, Snoop Dogg, Armie Hammer and Texan rapper Paul Wall no less. Indeed, the tiny town of Sierra Blanca, which is situated 85 miles east of El Paso and has a population of just 557 people, is making a big name for itself thanks to its famous arrests.


    Secondly, Sierra Blanca is about 20 miles from the Mexican border and, crucially, has a Border Patrol check point on the outskirts of town. The check point inspects thousands of vehicles – including tour buses - daily and sends the town thousands of drug cases yearly.


    The E! article also highlighted that in Texas medical marijuana licenses count for nothing. Fleming told E! 'Ninety percent of the people out here will try to flash their medical marijuana cards. Snoop flashed his real quick. But those don't matter to us. We're Texans. This isn't California!'
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I wish she hadn't been stupid and come out with [th]at nonsense. She should have just said what happened or shut up. If anything untoward, it would have shined a very bright light on those cockroaches. And yes, they are cockroaches regardless because the checkpoints are basically lawless behavior. Were CBP copping some free feels? gratuitous strip searches? smoking some of the proceeds from the raid? or was the singer just having a drug induced hallucination. who the h*ll knows at this point.
  12. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    This is the downside to Texas "independence".
  13. RB

    RB Founding Member

    It seems to me that CBP is abusing this checkpoint and making unlawful searches. That being said, and I'm not up to speed on drugs laws and especially Medical Marijuana, wouldn't any person who was found to be in possession of Hashish be facing some kind of legal action in every state?

    TMZ reported "Cops say the backpack contained a glass container with .01 pounds of weed and .01 pounds of hash. For all of you squares law-abiders unfamiliar with drug weight -- the weed is equivalent to the size of a baseball ... and the hash is equivalent to the size of a golf ball."

    Isn't a golf ball size of hash a significant amount?
  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    As one who had plenty of experience with both in college 40 years ago, the quote that TMZ attributes to the cops makes even less sense than Fiona Apple's ramblings.
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  15. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Any idea what a golf ball size clump of hash would weigh?
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I don't know, but that would be an awful lot of hash.

    I think the quote was trying to compare the relative potency of the two, not indicating that she had a golfball size quantity. She'd be up on drug trafficing charges if she had that much.
  17. I don't know about the hash, but .01 pounds of weed is a personal use amount, and not really that much. I'm not even sure it would make up a baseball.
  18. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    If it is fluffy and is still on the stem, it may make about the size of a baseball, but there would be a lot of empty space in that baseball. At roughly 1.6 oz, it is possible to be that size, but it would have to be unprocessed - I would guess.

    A golfball of Hash at 1.6 oz, that is pretty serious amount and does not sound like it matches up to the weight based on handling it while working under cover. Possession of hashish in Texas is (based on my internet skillz) a felony at any weight, although there may be some discretion allowed to the prosecution group.
  19. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Keep in mind that Fiona Apple is, on a good day, about as coherent as the average TSA thug.

  20. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Check my math here, I may not have gotten this right:
    1 pound = 16 ounces
    0.01 lbs = 16 x 0.01 = 0.16 ounce
    Doesn't seem like much to me, much less than an ounce.
    What a waste of our tax dollars! I'd rather have them giving breath-o-lizer tests for drunk drivers than harassing people for such miniscule amounts of canibus...just sayin'...:rolleyes:
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