Forced participation in school lunch program ...

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Mike, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Remember, they're not your kids any more; they belong to the state. You only get to borrow them on evenings and weekends.

    NC Civitas: State Inspectors Searching Children’s Lunch Boxes: “This Isn’t China, Is It?”

    I'm surpised NC Civitas didn't really comprehend what's actually behind this. It's budget: Compelling parents to participate in school lunch program by running up an involuntary tab for them:

    It's all about the money.

    And if the kids eat both lunches, no doubt the educational apparatchiks will be whining about obesity.
  2. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    What am I complaining about?--the gestapo must be hiring...
    No bake sales of any kind of homemade goodies allowed at my son's school. Has to be packaged, probably from approved bulk purchases the school takes a cut on.
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  3. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    The weird thing is I understand where this is coming from - some kids just don't get nutritious food for lunch.

    On the other hand, if I had kids and this happened to my kid, I'd be furious.

    P.S. Chicken nuggets??? :eek:
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Unreal. It is so stupid its actually pretty funny. These dumb doorknobs are teaching our kids?
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  5. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Unreal, If that was me I would be up that principals (expletive deleted) so fast s/he would be tasting shoe leather permanently, not to mention licking his wounds for a longtime. That inspector wouldn't be doing so hot either. I remember school lunches and they were crap with vegetables cooked in oil and burgers made from who knows what source of meat and more additives then a funeral home cadaver. I'll take a home lunch over cafeteria anyway atleast I know the source/contents of my food.

    Don't get me wrong I have friends in primary, secondary and colligate level that teach, but they wouldn't stand for any of this bs, as they'd be the first to cry fowl.
  6. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Except the child had a nutritious lunch! I'd be all over the school administration and my attorney and I would show up at the next Board of Education meeting.
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  7. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    When my children were younger their pediatrician gave me a piece of advice that was pure gold. He told me to evaluate my children's diet based on what they consumed over a 48 hr period, rather than demand each meal or snack be "balanced and healthy."

    Because I took this advice, my children's nutrition was better than that of most of their peers, and our mealtimes were virtually devoid of conflict.

    The institution in this debacle is usurping the proper role of the parents in a way that is contemptuous of these parents' competence. The contempt exhibited cannot be allowed to go unchallenged. It's premised on the assumption of dysfunctionalism on the part of the parents. If the parents permit the institution to ride roughshod over their right to fulfill their responsibility as parents, then the parents are indeed dysfunctional. Simply put, parents are responsible for their children's nutrition, and therefore have the right to manage that nutrition without interference.

    These parents would be wise to force the institution to back down on this policy. If they fail to force the institution to respect their right to fulfill their responsibilities as parents, then the institution will follow this small usurpation with more and more egregious ones. It's happening all over the country. All parents who send their kids to institutional schools and daycares must be prepared to fight back at the first sign of contempt on the part of administrators. Anything less than a decisive, firm defense will be followed by more malfeasance on the part of officials.
  8. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I, too, had a wonderful GP take care of my kids but his advice was to watch what the kids ate over a week or two. He felt it was o.k. if they ate only Cheerios morning, noon and night for a few days.

    He also stood up to the school system when they demanded that my kids have a physical every year. He told the school that he needed to see children on this schedule: infanthood to make certain they were inoculated; before they went into kindergarten, then when puberty started and once during their teen years. He and I also told the school to shove it when they wanted to test all students for diabetes. I informed the school that their physician was not to set a hand on my children without my specific permission.

    His philosophy was that he knew I would bring the kids in if they were sick. From those visits, he could determine whether or not the child was thriving and whether or not he needed to be more involved.
  9. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Well there you have it - common sense.

    I took my 13 year old son to the doctor this AM. No fever, just a sore throat and a cough. I felt a little stupid taking him in, but it turned out he had pneumonia. 9 times out of 10 when I take a kid in who has no fever, the diagnosis is "maternal anxiety." This time the diagnosis was pneumonia, so I guess I can take the heat for the other 9 times! Anyway, I witnesses a mother trying to coax a 2 year old patient to wear a paper mask in the waiting room. (It is our clinic's policy that patients suffering from sore throats, coughing and sneezing are asked to wear a mask.) The child adamantly declined. (Read full-blown tantrum) I was reminded that it's normal for 2 year olds to assert some autonomy, usually in the form of taking more control over what goes on and in their bodies. Respecting a child's need to do this is part of helping your offspring grow up sane.

    They're going to insist that all they want to eat this week is peanut butter and bananas. A smart mom responds with a noncommittal "That's nice Dear.", all the while planning a strategy to get them to eat broccoli with cheese sauce and grilled chicken breast for supper. Only a moron engages a child in food wars. It's counter-productive.
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  10. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Got the same advice from my son's pediatrician when he was 4 or 5. He was a skinny kid and only wanted to eat peanut butter and honey sandwiches so that's what I gave him morning, noon and night. He's now 42 years old, 6 foot 3 and STILL skinny. Parents make decisions for their kids a hundred times a day - why does the government think you're too stupid to decide what they should eat?
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    sounds like you have a wise doc. Dr. Russell Blaylock has some sobering thoughts on frequent physicals...he said it is difficult to determine anything from the tests, and easy to go off on some wild goose chase ordering further tests if some reading was a bit squirrelly. He advises three physicals, one for teenagers, one for middle age, one when you're old.

    what you describe is a significant reason we homeschooled our kids. In California, there is a huge interest in indocrinating and supplanting parents. Many school administrators I've known personally have an obvious contempt for parents. Perhaps justified by some parents, but this attitude wears thin for me.
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  12. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Good intuition on the pneumonia, Mom!
    I was lucky. My son always enjoyed eating his "little trees" of broccoli.
    I find the school administrators even more arrogant than the teachers, (who are always right). They are the experts, afterall.:td:
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  13. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Right - that's what I was saying. I probably should have said 'other' kids sometimes don't get a nutritious lunch to avoid the ambiguity. This kid's lunch was just fine - and the substitution with chicken nuggets (what's in those things anyway?) just can't be healthy.
  14. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    yes, and didn't Congress recently pass legislation declaring pizza to be a vegetable? so it could continue to be on school lunch menus.

    the whole premise is ridiculous. on the whole, who is *likely* to have more concern about the well being of a child--the kid's own parents, or some faceless paper pusher in an office who sees this kid as one of a million.
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  15. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Maybe all this good nutrition will off set the exposure of radiation the kids get after going through those scanners at the airport the TSA claims are perfectly safe.
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  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    During the Reagan era they declared ketchup was a vegetable.
  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  19. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Welcome to the world of industrial food...
  20. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I would be instructing my attorney to serve process like a Colorectal Surgeon.

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