Lawsuit Former Gov. Ventura Bodyslams TSA Scope-n-Grope

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  1. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    In January, former Minnesota Governor Jesse "The Body" Ventura filed suit against Terrorist Support Agency's invasive and unConstitutional scope-n-grope screening procedures.

    WCCO, the CBS affiliate for the Twin Cities, reports:

     
  2. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Reserved for future use and stuff.
     
  3. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Does anyone know if he has re-filed in Federal District Court? I believe venue was challenged?
     
  4. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Just for clarification, is this old news or a new twist on old news or new news or what?

    I'm not one of those people who spouts "Old news, tl;dr" but I just like to have as clear a mental chronology as possible.
     
  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    I stand corrected- someone more paralegal handy can run the chronology down exactly.
    I believe there had been a response filed to the original complaint, which questioned venue, but I haven't pulled that up by searching quickly. (These sources are from Google), but here is the complaint:
    http://static.infowars.com/2011/01/i/general/Ventura_lawsuit.pdf
    This most recent:
    http://fireacop.com/Ventura-v-Napolitano/Order-on-Motion-to-Intervene-Ventura-v-Napolitano.pdf

    It would be helpful to have each case complete in its own file for reference. There is GREAT material in these that can be recycled.
     
  6. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    That's the ultimate goal, I just haven't had the time to do it. :oops:

    Anyone is welcome to flesh out the cases, though... ;)
     
  7. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    I should be able to contribute to that as I build my case too. Thanks!
     
  8. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Alex Jones says there will a press conference Friday 7/22/11 after a ruling. Ventura's gut tells him the country is too far gone: that the Feds will put too much pressure on the court, wanting to avoid discovery.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlAAiG76dlM
     
  9. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Oral arguments CV-11-174 SRN/AJB
    July 22, 2011:
    "It prompted Olsen to open his oral argument with a quote from "Alice in Wonderland" by Lewis Carroll: 'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrariwise; what it is, wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?'

    "The public doesn't know what the SOP says," Olsen told the judge. "If the public has never seen it, they can't be charged with violating it.' ">3
    http://www.twincities.com/ci_18533113
     
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Even better:

     
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  11. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Ventura's lawyer makes an important point.

    If the Federal Government gets away with funneling all challenges to their arbitrary rules into District Courts, the U.S. Constitution is rendered irrelevant - nothing more than an interesting historical document.

    ...and the Lewis Carroll quote is brilliantly apropos.
     
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  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Former Gov. Jesse Ventura sues TSA over pat-downs
    By David Hanners
    Updated: 07/22/2011 10:46:22 PM CDT

    . . . The TSA's rules were "issued in secret, (were) never published (and) can be changed at any time, in secret," attorney David Bradley Olsen told U.S. District Judge Susan Rogers Nelson . . . .
    But the government contends that the "Standard Operating Procedures," or SOPs, the TSA developed to govern security screenings is a "final order" issued by a government official. As such, the action can be challenged only in a federal court of appeals, not a district court.
    What's more, it can be challenged only within 60 days of being issued.
    Ventura and Olsen maintain that challenging the TSA's actual procedures is difficult because they are considered "Sensitive Security Information" and aren't made public.
    It prompted Olsen to open his oral argument with a quote from "Alice in Wonderland" by Lewis Carroll: "If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrariwise; what it is, wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?"
    "The public doesn't know what the SOP says," Olsen told the judge. "If the public has never seen it, they can't be charged with violating it."
    There is no indication when Nelson will rule . . . .
     
  13. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Delay, delay, delay.
     
  14. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member


    She was the one involved with the NFL suit


    Maybe she can get on it now that the NFL Anti-Trust suit has been dismissed.
     
  15. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Deafening silence...

    Tick-tock.

    Tick-tock.

    Hello?

    Do we still have a judicial branch?

    Just askin'.
     
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  16. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Clearly they are asleep at the wheel. The 3-panel contingent of clowns in the EPIC lawsuit said because Congress granted TSA such broad powers, they were conducting themselves lawfully. It was beyond them to consider just what powers Congress had in them to grant.

    I correct that. They are not asleep at the wheel. They are simply irrelevant now to the task of protecting our freedoms from being swallowed up by the first taker. They are just apparatchiks now.
     
  17. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I still want to know how Congress can grant to the TSA powers that Congress itself does not have. I also want to know what "Judges" are smoking these days. If it's catnip, well and good. If it's crack, they need to be weened off the stuff.
     
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  18. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/jesse-ventura-calls-for-nfl-boycott-over-tsa-style-groping.html

    I guess if Mr. Ventura can be patient, I can be too.
     
  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Associated Press: Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

    So he needs to join the queue at the Court of Appeals. :D
     
  20. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    It's worth generating the numbers on this deliberate delay. I haven't looked yet, but is the venue decision more than a few paragraphs? Statistically you can show how out-of-bounds the handling of this case is.

    I am mad as (expletive deleted) and intend to look at conspiracy statutes as well because of crap like this, which can be proven mathematically. There may be gang statutes that apply, and RICO, as well as the definition of "domestic terrorism."
     

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