FOX 11 Investigates: LAX Molester

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    My Fox L.A.: FOX 11 Investigates: LAX Molester

    Most of the content is in the video, audio is poor.

    A couple problems with it, Fox needs to get better sources:

    I'm not aware that an airport police officer has any authority whatsoever to haul you off to private area to search you, witness or no witness.

    At the end, they interview Kate Hanni, who comes off as uninformed/naive: "They [airport police] have the right to ask you anything they want, and if you deny them, they can arrest you."

    Sorry, Kate, but you don't have to give them the time of day, and they can't arrest you for that.
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  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Well the TSA does, so I don't see why an airport police officer doesn't. Not that I would go, but then I'm not easily cowed by authority. Which, as we've discussed umpteen times here, most people are. Especially women.

    Remember the organized assault ring at Reagan National Airport back in 2004? I'm sure those women were just as scared by the uniform, the badge, the authoriteh. And they weren't faced by a guy with a gun, which the woman in this Fox report was.

    People are scared. They're pushed and prodded and barked at and threatened with missing their flights left and right. And if they personally haven't experienced it, they're watching other people experiencing it. They're scared. Throw in the threats of a cop like this -- "you have to come with me" -- and I easily understand how this happens.

    I'd be surprised if this, in whatever variation, weren't going on all over the place. But unless victims come forward, how are we going to find out about it?
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Quite simple: When a law enforcement officer does that, especially away from checkpoint, it's not an administrative search.

    TSA can only conduct administrative searches at designated checkpoints, not anytime & wherever a pervert pleases.

    Kate Hanni made a really big splash & did good work towards the tarmac delay rules, but since then she's just been all about Kate Hanni & her real estate business. For the most part these days she comes off as an airhead.
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    But they're also conducting searches after passengers have already successfully passed through the checkpoint. They're getting away with that. The entire airport has become one big "designated checkpoint."
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    No, those are at checkpoints set up at gates. TSA can't just approach you on a whim and demand a search.
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    There are accounts in my Master List of this happening. It's going to take me a long time to dig through the 73 pages to find them. But I remember off the top of my head the woman (somebody Campbell?) who was stopped while walking through the concourse, told to drop her stuff, spread her legs, and be groped. She did and she was. There was another case of the woman being chased down/up the escalator, after she had already passed through security, so the pervs could paw through her hair. We have no idea how often this stuff is occurring.
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Woman At LaGuardia Learns TSA Can Still Grope You Even AFTERYou Pass Security Checkpoint –Nancy Campbell, Urban Planner, Age 33
    By Chris Morran on March 28, 2011 12:30 PM

    TSA tracks down passenger for hair pat-down
    ATLANTA -- A passenger who had already gone through security at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport was shocked when she was tracked down by TSA agents who wanted to examine her hair.
    Isis Brantley was on the train platform headed to catch her flight to Dallas, when two TSA agents ran down the escalator behind her demanding to check her hair for explosives.
    "Some random lady came up and said did they check your hair and I said, what no, and then I just kept going. I have to pat your hair down to make sure you don't have any explosives," she said.
    "She took her hand and she started digging around in my hair several times and I said, 'Find the explosives? Please don't do this to me. This is humiliating and embarrassing'," Brantley said.
    . . . She told Dallas NBC station KXAS she is afraid she
    will be harassed again the next time she flies.
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The fact that the searches happen does not mean that they are proper or allowed, although it is par for the course when you have a bunch of retards hired from pizza-box ads & running around with "authoritah". I've probably heard of many more accounts of people refusing such ad hoc searches and sucessfully standing their ground.

    Look at what their fellow 'tards did in the Savannah train station -- clearly improper and eventually repudiated when the proper authorities found out about it.
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    On the other hand, the more these lowlifes do to exceed their boundaries and assault people, the sooner we will win in the long run. Accounts like these are what keeps TSA's reputation in the gutter, where it belongs.
  10. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    The mouthpiece recites one thing, but the foot soldiers do whatever they can get away with.

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