Good article on Gary Johnson shaking up the 2012 elections

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by lkkinetic, May 7, 2012.

  1. lkkinetic

    lkkinetic Original Member

    Although our common cause here is non-partisan and not overtly political, we have had conversations here lamenting the low probability that either of the Obamney twins would be motivated to change anything at TSA, DHS, Patriot Act, etc.

    In the ever-bleak political landscape, I thought this article from the Daily Beast did a good job of articulating why those of us who care about civil liberties and don't see them being defended by either the D or the R wings of the Authoritarian Party should consider Gary Johnson, who's just been nominated as the presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party.

    And for those of you for whom the War on Drugs is an important policy issue, the vice-presidential nominee is former federal judge Jim Gray, a strong advocate for ending the War on Drugs and a highly visible and active member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.

    No, they won't win, and their positions may not match yours, or mine, or anyone's perfectly. But the more media attention, the more potential votes, and the more actual votes they get, the more that the establishment authoritarian parties will have to adapt their practices to respond to principled arguments and policies consistent with civil liberties. That's the most I would ever dare to hope for from a political process.
  2. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I was reading an article about him over the weekend and thinking about you - was hoping you'd post. :)

    Pro-civil liberties, anti-drug war, pro-choice, and anti-TSA.

    I could vote for this man.
  3. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Ain't gonna happen friends. We are talking about the security state here. Did you know that in 2010, 854,000 people had top secret security clearances? This is beyond the control of any party or ordinary change in government. It never gets any smaller and it constantly finds reasons for its continued existence.
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I did like Johnson. But it was clear even before the first primary that he had 1/100 of Paul's snowball's chance.
  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I'm all in favor of people voting for any 3rd party candidate. Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Rocky Anderson, your aunt Mabel. Do it. Don't vote D or R.
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I live in CA. It truly does not matter.
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I know. I live in Maryland. Solidly Democratic. The point is to send a message to the two parties that we are sick of their (expletive deleted). If enough people would do this, no, of course it wouldn't change the outcome of this election, but the party elders would take notice. That's the point. This is a longterm battle. It's going to take years.
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