Grant Funds Should Target Highest Priority Rail Vulnerabilities

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by Mike, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Security Management: Grant Funds Should Target Highest Priority Rail Vulnerabilities

    Sounds as though the DHS Inpsector General is usurping that function within Amtrak, and in response to their own OIG's audit, DHS/TSA are agreeing to assume oversight of a separate, autonomous agency?

    Talk about mission creep! :td:

    Am I missing something here?
     
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    John O'Connor, Amtrak Police Chief, tore the TSA a new (expletive deleted) when they invaded the Savannah train station earlier this year. He banned them from Amtrak property. Thank god for him. But how much longer will he be able to hold out, I wonder?

    Regardless, there are tens of thousands of miles of railroad track in this country. How the (expletive deleted) are they going to "protect" it all?? What a bunch of morons. Napolitano and Pistole are an embarrassment to this country. But not a benign embarrassment, a malicious one.
     
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  3. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    They can't actually protect the track. It's actually rather difficult to sabotage a train by damaging modern welded rail track, although certainly there have been instances. What they want to do use the Spain bombing to justify airport-type gropes for train passengers. Problem is that the fear factor isn't there for train travel.
     
  4. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    This is an excellent point. Train passengers feel they have a fighting chance should something happen but at 35,000 feet, different story. Maybe this is good news. If TSA mission creep continues their efforts to scope and grope train and bus passengers, they'll feel this is a huge over-reach for a very small risk, and revolt. Sigh...I can only hope citizens of this country have a breaking point.
     
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  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    This is pernicious. Maybe the thieves want access to rail freight too.
    I consulted a rail-expert friend for their opinion:
     
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Sooner or later there could still be an attack on a train (whether actual or false flag). Then, I believe, the sheeple would fall into line just like they have at airports. They wouldn't behave the way the Brits and Spaniards have -- sensibly, rationally. Just my o.
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The Spaniards reacted by voting out their government & causing their troops to be removed from the allied effort against Al Quaeda.

    Spain is a nation of cowards where the terrorists won, big time.
     
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I must disagree. I think this is a country of cowards where the terrorists have won big time. It was, after all, their explicitly stated goal not to kill thousands of Americans, but to get Americans to terrorize themselves, and to bankrupt themselves with ever-increasing "security" expenditures. Mission Accomplished.
     
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    But you're not really disagreeing. You're pointing out a different path to success for the terrorists.

    The purpose of the attacks on the World Trade Center was to get us to react, which we did. Unfortunately, we not only went to Afghanistan & kicked their butts, we started terrorizing our own citizens by changing and degrading their way of life.

    In the case of the attacks on the London & Madrid transit systems, the purpose of the attacks was to get the UK & Spain out of the war on terror. It worked in Spain, failed in the UK.
     

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