How Orwellian are we? TSA supervisor Roger Grant refused to give me name of TSA worker who...

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by TSA News Blog, Nov 18, 2012.

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    He also threatened me with arrest just for asking for her first name (which she refused to provide), and which was impossible to see, since she wore her ID badge upside down.​
    A good many TSA workers seem to wear their badges upside down — so, I suspect, they can’t be identified, as I identified the TSA’s Thedala Magee, and more recently, another LAX TSA gropenfrau, Tiffany Applewhite.​
    Following is the text of my email to TSA press liaison Nico Melendez, which details the actions of the TSA at JFK the other day, when Gregg and I were flying home. We were in New York attending the National Book Awards, not the al Qaeda Leadership Conference, and I’d had lunch with my book agent and my editor, a lovely man whose name is decidedly not al-Zawahiri.​
    In other words, there was no reason whatsoever to search me — to grope my breasts, graze my genitals, or touch me or my possessions in any way. But all of that was done to me, and Gregg was groped as well.​
    Let’s be mindful that the government-pension-seeking clerks the TSA hires couldn’t find a terrorist if one crawled up their (expletive deleted) and whistled.
    Any plots uncovered have been exposed by trained intelligence agents — like Fred Humphries, the FBI agent who uncovered the Millennium bombing plot at LAX by noticing that a guy with a Montreal baptismal certificate had an Algerian accent.
    The email asks for answers — as well as names of those who think they’re employed and empowered by the United States of Orwell.
    SUBJECT: Nico, info needed for piece on TSA incident Nov 15 at JFK
    Nico,​
    On Thursday, November 15, at around 2pm, I was going through Kennedy Airport, Terminal 2 (Delta), going to gate 27 for a Delta flight home to Los Angeles.​
    As usual, I was pulled out for more screening. (It is odd that I, like many large-breasted women, am always chosen — always by men at the metal detectors — to go for further screening. Every time I fly.)​
    Of course, in this case, there was no reason to believe I was guilty of anything other than flying home to Los Angeles to feed my dog and go to bed.​
    The serious issue at hand here: The light-skinned black woman who screened me, last name “Moore,” was wearing her photo ID upside down so her first name could not be read. After she ran her hands, most disgustingly, all over my body, grazing my labia and touching my breasts and inside my turtleneck on my bare skin, I told her I needed her first name. She refused to give it to me.​
    It seems to me that when a government worker is doing a contested activity like groping my body for “security” purposes, sans probable cause, or engaging in any search of me as a citizen, I am entitled to that person’s full name and badge number. In fact, we should be entitled to any government worker’s full name when we have any dealing with them — as long as we are still a free country.​
    I am asking you to provide both the full name and badge number of agent Moore now for a piece I am writing about this event. I also need to know if agents are required, for accountability to the public they are touching in their most private areas, to wear their identification so it is visible.
    Does the public not have a right to know the name of the person they are being searched by, or have things become *that* Orwellian?
    Furthermore, when I went over to agent Moore’s supervisor, the supervisor, Mr. Grant, a light-skinned black man seated at a podium in the corner, also refused to give me his first name.
    I could read his name on his badge — Roger Grant — as his badge was not upside-down.​
    When I told TSA supervisor Roger Grant I needed the first name of the woman (Moore) who’d searched my body, he refused to give it to me and told me he would call the police on me. He said this in concert with telling me to leave. This was upsetting, frightening, and extremely intimidating.​
    Is this truly TSA procedure? That when a citizen asks the name of the person who searched them, they are denied the name and then threatened with arrest?I want you to give me Roger Grant’s badge number, his job history with the TSA, and an explanation of whether his behavior of threatening me with arrest for asking for the name of the agent who searched me was in line with TSA procedure.
    I asked Roger Grant for a complaint form and he refused to give me one. He said I could complain online.
    I want to know whether there will be any reprimand or punishment made of these two, and if not, why not. I’d also like a complaint form since Grant refused to give me one.
    Is this the America you want to live in?
    Please answer all my questions in boldface, provide any additional information you might have that relates to this incident, and let me know when you can get back to me.​
    -Amy Alkon​
    (Photo: your tax dollars, via Wikimedia)
     
  2. Mike

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    People are looking for ways to protest & slow the system down by lodging complaints -- this could be one avenue: Look for smurfs & smurfettes whose badges are not properly displayed, taking photos whenever possible, and lodging complaints.
     
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  3. Al Coholic

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    I make a point of doing it EVERY time I have to fly and see one of those characters. I like the idea about taking pictures and then filing a complaint about impostors working checkpoints. FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, of course. ;)
     
  4. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I need to dig around but I recall reading in the CFR that Federal employees are required to display ID and identify themselves when working with the public. The intent of the section clearly indicates that this is necessary to assure the public that they are dealing with a legitimate representative of the agency.

    Krazy Kat recently joined the feds and may have current policy.
     
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  5. Al Coholic

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    Please do. Maybe we can get a few prosecutions out of that. Also, a template for FOIA request would be very helpful. Maybe someone who is well versed at that can develop one for TUG?
     
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    The TSA’s celebrated (cough, cough) “Blogger Bob” has responded to Amy Alkon’s post about her most recent experience at JFK. Here’s the full text, with link below:
    Here we go again… TSA seems to be a frequent and a convenient subject on this blog. The writer’s language characterization towards TSA and our employees is offensive to say the least. Name calling, insults, the whole gamut…​
    In her latest screening incident, she’s angry because a supervisor wouldn’t give her the name of an officer who had just screened her. An officer who – by the way – by all accounts other than Ms. Alkon’s, did her job by the book. It is more likely that she wanted this information so she could post the officer’s name on her blog as she’s done before with other incidents. In fact, she named and publicly accused one of our officers of rape after a routine pat-down in an earlier allegation.​
    Ms. Alkon says all sorts of things in this post, but what Ms. Alkon doesn’t tell you is that from the moment she entered our checkpoint, she began making statements such as “TSA gets paid to molest passengers and touch their private areas.” Does that sound like somebody who wants to get through the checkpoint smoothly? No, it sounds like somebody who makes a living by agitating situations and writing about them.​
    Also missing in the details, Ms. Alkon wasn’t selected for a pat-down as she states in this post. She opted out of advanced imaging technology (body scanner). It’s acceptable to opt out, but the standard protocol when a passenger opts out is that they receive a pat-down, not a free pass through security. If you read Amy’s comments, she knows this. As Ms. Alkon continued to make a scene, the checkpoint supervisor stated he would have to call airport police if she did not cooperate with the screening process.​
    We understand that not everybody likes or agrees with TSA’s policies and procedures. Part of what makes this country great is that we can openly complain on blogs such as this one, but I think it’s only fair that the blogger in question should be fair and accurate about what they write about and also consider the privacy of the individuals involved. After all, these individuals are doing the job the way they’ve been trained to do it. They show up to work daily with the intent of protecting our Nation’s transportation network.​
    I can assure you of one thing, an infinitesimal number of our employees know of Ms. Alkon. I can also assure you that reoccurring allegations like hers seem to be more self perpetuated rather than based upon reality and do nothing but detract from the mission at hand.​
    Bob Burns​
    TSA Blog Team​
    Posted by: Bob Burns at November 20, 2012 7:16 AM​
    Go to Amy Alkon’s personal blog to see the response in its original location. He also posted a response at Propaganda Central, aka the TSA Blog. As I’ve said before, I long ago stopped trying to comment there as my comments were always censored (our tax dollars at work!). There’s a reason Bob Burns is known far and wide as “Bloghdad Bob.”
     
  7. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Sure but BlabberBlowhard also dodges the question regarding the requirement of providing the name and instead decides to redirect focus in a rant in a tangent direction.
    Classic.
     

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