How the TSA preys on ignorance — and what you can do about it now

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Lisa Simeone, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    How the TSA preys on ignorance — and what you can do about it now
    by Richard Walbaum

    At TSA News. I just edited and added to this piece to make it more layman-friendly. It was strictly legalese before. Good info for those who are inclined to make a stand at the checkpoint.
     
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Is the author a lawyer?
     
  3. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I don't think so. He calls himself a "legal researcher." You can click on his website.
     
  4. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Some of the things he says have not been litigated so I would be hesitant to put them in such black and white terms as he does.

    For example:

    How is the TSA breaking these rules? If the TSA yells at you, or you opt out of the naked body scanner and the TSA makes a scene by yelling “OPT OUT, OPT OUT, WE HAVE AN OPT OUT!” that violates rule No. 1, because the screening is more intensive than necessary.

    He states that it violates rule number 1. This has not been litigated so we don't know that yelling 'we have an opt out' violates rule number 1.
     
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Is being placed in an enclosure waiting for the feel down a detention?
     
  6. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    When I see cases like Stacy Armato or Rand Paul, yes, I would view those as detentions -- but -- that's only my opinion based on my legal knowledge. If Stacy wins her case, and it survives on appeal, then we can say definitely that making people wait in enclosures for an excessive amount of time is a detention - and have the case law to back us up.
     
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