ID scanners = "intelligence-driven passenger screening"?

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    More taxpayer $ wasted for security theater ...

    Short News: TSA Started Testing New ID-Scanners at Washington Dulles

  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    The sheeple will eat it up. "Look! See how efficient and up-to-date the TSA is! Gosh, I'm glad they're Keeping Me Safe!"
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  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    But we knew who the 9/11 hijackers were. They didn't need fake ID's.

    If crooks can fake functional credit cards, they will have no trouble faking ID's with valid check-digits in the magnetic strip.

    They still have to rely pizza-box rejects to match up your mug with the photo (which on a recently faked ID is much more likely to look like you than one that was taken perhaps years ago on a real DL or passport).
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    More empirical evidence and logic the sheeple don't want to hear.
  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Agree, Lisa. How many people in prison had valid ID's at the time of incarceration? Probably all of them. This is a GREAT way to sift the bad guys from the good guys.
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  6. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    And how much personally identifiable information will these machines be storing? If I should have to fly for some reason, I think I'd just use my passport (with no address on it) instead of a driver's license.
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  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Passport Card seems to be the better ID for the Transportation Statsi Administration.
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  8. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    spending north of a 100K a machine for something that can be gotten for <1K a machine. Such a waste of money that proves because a TDC cant do there frackin job they have to use a machines 20x as expensive. Hmm i wonder which current or former DHS official is getting a kick back on this.
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  9. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    The sheeple are impressed when you give ill trained primates fancy gadgets to play with. It is entertaining to watch these morons fumble with devices years above their third grade reading comprehension.
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  10. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I'd say something about the line backups because of this new hoop, but lines are already backed up due to the "faster" nude body scanners. It'll just look like another day at a TSA effed up checkpoint.
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Here's the USA Today version of the story:

    USA Today: TSA tests airport check-in system

    And if you believe that ...
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  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I'll bet these machines read RFID info from newer passports, passport cards & some drivers' licenses. While you might make a conscious decision as to what ID to present, the machine would be absorbing everything it can read that's still in your wallet, pocket, backpack, purse.

    Assuming it does read RFID chips, how many bogus/cloned RFID chips would you have to sew into your clothing to totally overwhelm or confuse it?

    Here's a 2009 UK Register article on cloning the RFID chips in passport cards: Passport RFIDs cloned wholesale by $250 eBay auction spree: Video demo shows you how
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Most of the specific specs appear to be "SSI" :rolleyes: but this appears in their RFP:

    I think it's a safe bet that these machines suck up RFID data. Also, don't believe the reference to "close proximity" in the RFD. With the right equipment, you can read RFID chips up to a mile away. The passport RFID cloner linked above worked at a distance of ~20 feet.

    More info on the procurement program is here.
  14. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    a piece of foil in the wallet?
  15. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Wow, your passport has no address on it?? Mine does. Always has.
  16. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

  17. lkkinetic

    lkkinetic Original Member

    I stopped writing my address in my passport years ago.

    One question, probably for Mike or CelticWhisper: Am I right that the RFID in my passport can only be read when the passport is opened?
  18. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Eh, it depends. A weak reader may have trouble penetrating your passport sleeve but I wouldn't bet on it. Generally you'll need something metallic to stand in the way and block the signal from the reader. Knowing how the Terrorists Searching Americans operate, they'll likely spring for the stronger readers just to be able to invade privacy further. A sleeve like the one I linked to will do the trick, or you can probably get away with using some aluminum foil for a substitute on the cheap.

    If you're familiar with the concept of a Faraday cage, that's basically what the blocking wallet/sleeve do to protect your information.
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  19. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Nope, no address.
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I take it back! I just looked at it, and I'll be damned, it doesn't. Just my place of birth.

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