Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by AndreaAbbott, Apr 3, 2012.
As if it never happened and yet they're the ones who were wrong...not you.
Personally, I would have my lawer make a counter offer: "You pay me $250K, drop the charges outright, publically appologize to me and my daughter, and publically admit that you were in the wrong to press charges against me, and this whole thing will go away; otherwise, expect a civil suit requesting twice that amount after I am cleared by a jury of my peers of all charges. " (We don't have a :middle-finger: emoticon to shoot them, so :stick-out-tongue: will have to do.)
That's easy to say when you're not the one staring down the barrel of this government, it's trumped-up bureaucracies, not to mention have you taken a look at some of your "peers" lately?
I'd love to see someone who has the means, motive and opportunity to take a case all the way and set precedent. But that's a big burden for someone to take on.
Bolding Mine: Good point you have there. I might consider waiving a jury trial and ask the decision be made by a judge. But then, it's still the luck-of-the-draw...
Yeah have you seen some of our local judges? Their campaign posters are just this side of Göring...
I wouldn't. Not as long as "judges" like Raymond J. Lohier are sitting.
I agree. There's an old lawyer joke that goes something like this:
Question: "What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?"
Answer: "Your Honor"
Before or after the beneficial application of cyanide?
Andrea: What they've offered is a proposal. Make a counter proposal and whack about 2/3 off the fees. Odds are that they'll agree.
yes, and maybe throw in an anger management class for the goon that made the arrest. he was quite the piece of work.
I think the "negotiations" are just getting under way.
I spoke with my attorney today. He is looking into a couple of questions that I have, depending on the answers... Of course my head is spinning from all of this. As of right now I will be going to court on the 22 of Oct.
I realize you have to do what is right for you but I would ask for the 30 days to be time served so to speak.
It's ridiculous to suggest that a citizen who has been well behaved over a lifetime must live in jeopardy for 30 more days. Andrea has proved over her lifetime that she's not a career criminal. The 30 days adds insult to the injury done by placing adrea under so much stress already.
I agree with you.
Andrea's not the target. The target is "anyone else who might object to being treated like a subject instead of a citizen."
I'm sure Andrea is going to sort through the options and make the best decision for her and her family, with her attorney's guidance. Of course we all wish that this case could go to a jury, which would hopefully respond in the same way they did over Phil Mocek's case, finding that the TSA and arresting officers are flat-out liars and the case has no merit.
But I completely understand the fear of going to a jury. My brother is a attorney, and two years ago I watched him lose his practice because of a case he litigated for a woman who was clearly the victim of employer gender discrimination. My brother sunk everything into that case, which was about as open-and-shut as one of those types of cases can be. Everyone, including the attorney for the defense, were STUNNED when the jury came back with a finding for the defendant!
Remember, a jury is made up of 12 people who couldn't figure out how to get out of jury duty. It's really no better than flipping a coin.
I have to agree LeeAnne. There's no such thing as a "jury of your peers," unless you're a slack-jawed, drool-dripping moron. Some of the verdicts are horrifying. It's Andrea's life. She will have to choose what's right for her.
Whenever someone talks about going to a jury as if that would provide any kind of justice, all I have to do is throw two letters at them to completely refute that idea:
Dammit. I knew there was a reason TSA employees were getting off so lightly in the courts.
Voir Dire: A French expression meaning "Jury Tampering By Prosecutor & Judge"
Thanks for the info. Tonight was the first time I saw this. WOW the lies. lol My bond was 500.
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