Indy Channel: Confrontation With TSA Agent Leaves Grandpa's Ashes On Floor

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Another stellar performance by the two-digit IQ crew ...

    The title is misleading. It doesn't sound as though there were any confrontation, rather just a screener who blatantly disregarded protocols and screwed up badly.

    Indy Channel: Confrontation With TSA Agent Leaves Grandpa's Ashes On Floor: Indianapolis Man Furious Over Treatment At Florida Airport Checkpoint

  2. THawk996

    THawk996 Original Member

    Undoubtedly there will be a "problem" with the video cameras at the check point.
  3. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    And I'm sure after a vigorous investigation, no one did anything wrong and all standard procedures were followed with dignity and respect.
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach


    We'll cover dignity & respect later in the week. :D
  5. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    This story brought tears to my eyes. I shouldn't be but I am shocked yet again at the gall and total disregard by these heartless jackasses.
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  6. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Even though the TSA pretty much does what it damn well pleases, passengers need to educate themselves as to what the proper protocols are and stand their ground and ask for a supervisor and, if necessary, argue with them even if it means missing your plane. "WE" are part of the problem because we stand there and say nothing, do nothing and then wonder why these bone heads do the type of things they do to us. We sure can complain afterwards but what about doing something when it's happening? Would I stand there and allow a TSA employee to open a sealed container of my loved ones ashes and stick their fingers in the container - not on your life - but I'm not one who submits to authority for the sake of authority nor am I the type who would go to an airport without all the information available regarding the TSA. People need to get smart and get mad and be willing to be inconvenienced before we will see any changes. On Twitter I see tweets all the time that simply say, F ... the TSA. Well, that's not going to help - you need to F... the TSA when you're there being harassed or manhandled or given false information.
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  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I'm not. It wouldn't even surprise me to hear that a TSA employee had dumped Grandpa's ashes on the floor and peed in them.

    Or stolen them and tried to snort or smoke them.
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  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    "Mah nishtanah?"
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  9. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I'm not disagreeing with you but the added obstacle is how anything and every about their protocol is 'SSI", out of date, and at the screener's discretion trips up standing our ground.
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Her behavior -- sticking her finger in it & stirring it around -- was inappropriate regardless.

    For all we know she was picking buggers like crazy five minutes earlier.

    What if it had been a food substances, e.g. spice or herbs, now contaminated with TSA snot?

    Or what if it had been a caustic chemical, cause her to suffer severe burns?

    Stupid is as stupid does. We have get these two-digit IQs back to picking up trash on the highways and occasionally serving as road kill.
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  11. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Another passengers learns that TSA has absolutely no regard for the how the passenger is affected.

    A bag of potatoes gets better treatment when in transit.
  12. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    This clerk is lucky to be alive. Do that to the wrong person and much hilarity will ensue. The passenger might end up in jail, but the clerk will be on a slab. And if I were on the jury my ruling would be "laudable homicide".

  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    First I've heard that attributed to Twain. Ambrose Bierce, "Felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy."
  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    And there are clueless comments in the comment thread at the article, of course. I can't post; I'm not on FB. I see that Amy Alkon has taken one of the morons to task. It gets exhausting, dealing with all the idiots on this issue.
  15. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

  16. RosemaryT

    RosemaryT Original Member

    Psychopath really *is* an apt description.

    Have these people no shame? No conscience? No life experience with grief? No thought processes?

    They really do appear to be amoral, sanguine idiots.

    IQ Range Classification
    70-80 Borderline deficiency
    50-69 Moron
    20-49 Imbecile
    below 20 Idiot
  17. Seriously, I don't even know what to say on this one. I might not eat breakfast.
  18. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    That's exactly where I am also - there are no words.

    However, there are many excellent comments attached to the article.
  19. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    There's no reason to put down people whose IQ is low. They have no control over that. Plenty of good people aren't very bright.

    This woman's actions in opening the container, running her fingers through the passenger's grandfather's ashes in front of him, remoreselessly spilling the ashes, then laughing at him while he was crawling on the floor trying to recover his grandfather's remains show serious moral deficiencies. They used to call it moral insanity, now they call these people sociopaths or psychopaths. She's a loon, pure and simple.

    She probably has a normal intelligence. There's nothing wrong with her brains, it's her soul that's warped.

    If the TSA hired people whose intelligence was sub-normal I wouldn't have a big problem with that. If they could memorize and follow rules, then ask for a supervisor if they were out of their depth, the problem wouldn't be so bad. TSA gropers aren't bad because they're stupid, they're bad because they have serious character deficiencies that make criminal activity extremely attractive to them.
  20. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    She's a TSA groper. Res ipsa loquitur.

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