Insider: $56 Billion Later, Airport Security Is Junk

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Sunny Goth, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Good article, but I don't see the need for more layers of security so much as the need for different layers. The ones we have now are obscene and do nothing for actual security.

    From Wired

    Insider: $56 Billion Later, Airport Security is Junk

    The Department of Homeland Security has spent billions since 9/11 trying to keep dangerous people and dangerous explosives off airplanes, and treating us all air travelers like potential terrorists in the process. But according to a former security adviser to a leading airline, the terrorists have changed the game — and the government hasn’t yet caught on.
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  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is talking about. Nappy has recently said the biggest terrorists threats are from lone wolf actors. I guess that's why the old grannies are being searched so thoroughly.
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  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Nappy wouldn't know a terrorist from a Chihuahua. I see Nappy as a bigger threat to my safety than these terrorists she seems so scared of.
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  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Thanks for the article link, Sunny Goth. I'm glad to see someone coming out agains the stripping, groping, abuse, and general stupidity.

    But I can safely say there isn't a thing in there that we at TUG haven't pointed out and talked about repeatedly. Of course, we have no clout, so I suppose it's at least possible that s.o.b. Pistole will listen to Ben Brandt. Though I doubt it.

    (God bless Wired for the headline!)
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    From the article Sunny Goth linked:

    Realistic view might well be why he is a former adviser. Delta has been sucking up to TSA from the beginning. They like having the government cover one of their major cost centers, with the airline's contribution fixed at 2002 levels. As early as 2003, Delta was going to ante up tons of personal customer info for CAPPS II without the consent of the customers but backed off after a large protest from its customers. CEO Anderson is on record at the 2010 Delta DO as praising TSA for doing a great job.

    Although Ben Brandt might have been an advisor to Delta, it also appears that perhaps he didn't fit the mold. Don't assume for a moment that the airlines "get it". The airlines will "get it" on the day their auditors tell them they're losing more money on TSA's account than they're saving by not being responsible for security.
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  6. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Same story with the Air Transport Association.
    Jeff Smisek at UA/CO has reportedly been the opposite.
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    At CO the Jeff & Larry Show were most concerned about having their 1st class seats poached by FAM's.
  8. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    "Layers" is an excuse for ad-hoc procedure and confusion, implying it's designed.
    Great to have more mainstream media headlines and stories like this, (paid for by online sponsors Bacardi, Twitter, and Goldman Sachs). I think the point is to comment but especially to link this article to our comments outside TUG.

    Kudos to Spencer Ackerman who has been following security comedy theater for a while now.

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