Is the TSA punishing us?

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  1. TSA News Blog

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    Steven deForest is an experienced air traveler, but he says nothing could have prepared him for the confrontation he recently had with a TSA screener in Las Vegas.

    “I chose to opt out of the backscatter X-ray and submit to a physical search,” he says.
    DeForest was ushered into a glass holding box until a screener could be found to conduct the search.
    “A bulky young TSA agent came over to pat me down,” he remembers. “He told me to turn around. He was using his command voice, barking orders. I told him that I wasn’t comfortable turning away from my luggage, which had already been screened, and wanted to keep it in my sight.”
    The agent issued more orders — “Stay there, I didn’t tell you to move!” and “Empty your pockets!” — and deForest says the federal screener seemed irritated that he didn’t obey him without hesitation.
    And that’s when deForest says he was punished. The agent knelt in front of him to conduct a pat-down.
    “As he raised his hands he was looking at me,” he says. “Then he gave a quick flick and smacked me in one of my testicles.”
    The TSA says its full-body scanners are optional and that it trains its agents to treat “opt-outs” like deForest with respect. But during the last few weeks, a different picture has emerged from within the TSA’s own ranks.
    Passengers are complaining that TSA agents are punishing them for failure to comply quickly to their orders, or simply for opting out, an allegation that TSA insiders admit is true.
    The most troubling is the case of former TSA agent John Irwin, who admitted to stealing $520 from a passenger because the passenger wasn’t deferential enough to him.
    The scenario was virtually identical to deForest’s. Last November, a passenger asked to opt out of the full body scanner, and when he complained at being led into a private screening area, Irwin removed $520 in cash that had been screened and hid it in a TSA supervisor’s drawer.
    And who can forget the woman who missed her flight last month because of her bad “attitude”? It might be difficult to believe a TSA agent would prevent her from making her flight, except that the incident was captured on video and posted to YouTube.
    The latest wave of complaints about TSA agents punishing passengers isn’t new. Back in 2010, when the TSA began using full-body scanners, I spoke with passengers who said the pat-downs were retaliatory. But this is one of those rare times when TSA agents essentially agree that their actions at the screening area are intended to punish rather than protect airline passengers.
    Of course, some passengers understand that airport screening is a game, and they seem ready to turn the tables. When this woman was told she couldn’t bring her vodka through a checkpoint last week, she retaliated by drinking it. At 7:30 a.m.
    Imbibing distilled spirits before being screened is totally legal, by the way — but I wouldn’t recommend it.
    But most passengers probably feel a lot like deForest, the passenger whose genitals were rapped in Las Vegas: upset, but ultimately powerless to stop it from happening.
    “I can’t over-emphasize the feeling of humiliation, rage, and frustration,” he told me. “I believe I have a better idea of what a woman feels when she is groped, or worse. I was deliberately assaulted by someone who knew that he could get away with it.”
    He’s right. Unless an agent comes forward to confess that he or she intentionally roughed up a passenger, or stole money from him, or made her miss her flight, it’s hard to prove anything.
    A delay in screening a passenger can seem like punishment, but who knows, the screening area might be short staffed? Valuables can go missing from a tray, but how can you be sure another passenger didn’t accidentally take it?
    And a pat-down can look proper, but it can feel like rape.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I just finished posting about an LAPD piglette stomping on s female arrestee's genitals, and the next new TUG post to read turns out to be this one about TSA's genital rapping.

    What the (expletive deleted) is wrong with this country? People need to revolt and put an end to this :trash:.
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    One of these days they're going to do that to the wrong person. Like someone with a varicocele, for example.

    And that person will either simply fold up and pass out, or otherwise react very badly and possibly injure the pedosmurf who performed the jimmy tap.
  4. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    It's easy to feel as if you're being punished when you walk away from one of these grotesque feel ups.

    However, the description of this "pat down" is consistent with every single one I've received to date.

    It's not that this individual was punished, it's that he received TSA's standard groping.

    It really is unfortunate that a pedophilic pervert assumed "leadership" of TSA. How an evil and sick individual like John Pistole gets that job is beyond me.
  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    A comment from a recent thread at TSANews:

    I guess he's fortunate that he didn't get a pat down.
  6. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I've been thinking lately that the silver lining, at least in my case and those of my fellow millenials born a decade or two after Pissy, is that barring unforeseen circumstances or serious illness...I will live to see John Pistole die. I will live to read his obituary in the newspaper. I will know a world without him, even if only for a few years.

    I just hope that it's some horrifically painful form of cancer, or some other "body horror" disease like a filovirus, that finally does him in. Irukandji syndrome would be a bonus.

    This is probably insanely cold and vindictive by most people's standards, but I no longer care. Pistole is an inhuman monster and deserves no comfort or kindness for even a single moment of the rest of his life. I wish him the absolute worst of what the world of microorganisms has to give to him.
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  7. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    The thought just occurred to me that "pat down" is one letter away from "put down" which really is what TSA is all about.
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  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    A hydrocele and a varicocele are two different conditions, but yes, he's probably lucky.

    As I understand it, hydroceles aren't all that painful - while inappropriate contact with a varicocele can be incredibly painful.
  9. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Personally, I want to look him in the eye as he's fed through an Asplund wood chipper. Feet first.
  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    How about just tazing him until he quits twitching?
  11. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Probably not enough neurons to make an impression or the signal to make it to what litle grey matter there might be to knock it off.
  12. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Besides...I rather like the idea of him succumbing to disease or age or something else that doesn't require anybody to lift a finger. There's something poetic about it. Something to do with the way that, in the end, he's no better than the citizens he's ordering molested en masse.

    Squishy, frail flesh and blood just like everybody else, and time will collect its toll one way or another.

    Not to say I don't want to see him shamed, disgraced, and (preferably) expatriated as a traitor. Let him live a long, miserable life, and make sure he knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that his actions in trying to "save" America led directly to his permanent exile. He can stew on that as he stares through the chainlink fence from the other side of the border, looking longingly at a land he'll never visit again.
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    How about a T brand to the forehead to indicate Traitor or Treason so all the world will know simply and visibly for all to see.
  14. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    SOMEBODY's been watching Inglourious Basterds, I see. ;)
  15. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    How about making the brand "TSA" so that it is clear what kind of traitors they are?
  16. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Well Played sir well played; Even better idea!
  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Can we use the swastika-styled version of "TSA" to make it ABSOLUTELY clear?


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