John Pistole tells passengers to pound sand re: White House petition to abolish TSA

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by barbell, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I hadn't even noticed the "s" in "wwws". That's weird, and dumb. They'll lose a lot of potential viewers that don't notice the "s" & don't type it.

    "wwws" has nothing to do with protocols. It's simply a subdomain (as is "www") and can be whatever the site administrator wants.
     
  2. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Didn't know that, thanks for the info; ive been away from web development for a bit. the domains on 4 different hosts don't give me that option for sub domains only xyz.domain.tld.


    I'll agree with the loosing traffic, but the is the federal government were talking about.
     
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Technically, "www" and "wwws" would be hostnames, not subdomains. www.petitions.whitehouse.gov would be the host "www" in the subdomain "petitions" of the parent domain "whitehouse" in the top-level domain (or TLD) "gov".

    I hate to be pedantic, but that's what I do for a living. It also gets tiresome when troubleshooting DNS problems and having to explain that, no, the hostname they're trying to connect to does not start with "http," and that URLs and URIs are not FQDNs.
     
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Subdomains are indeed the correct name for this: http://www.google.com/search?q=subd...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    They might be mapped to hosts in your particular environment, but they really have nothing to do with specific hosts. If I wanted to set up subdomains for TUG, I could map them them specific subdirectories, or I could use the the rewrite engine to send them just about anywhere.

    Notwithstanding what I actually do for a living, this seems to be where I spend most of my time. :)
     
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I see where you went astray -- we're not talking about "www.petitions.whitehouse.gov".

    It's "wwws.whitehouse.gov": wwws=subdomain, whitehouse=domain, gov=tld
     
  6. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...except that "wwws" in this case is mapped to specific hosts. If a DNS lookup returns an A or CNAME record, it's a terminated branch - and while it might be an @ record for the subdomain, the return is a host (or list of hosts, as this one's got a boatload of Akamai IPs on the delivery side.

    I was using "petitions" as an example of an unterminated branch in the other post - to the best of my knowledge no such subdomain actually exists.

    In any case, I think we agree that the Reddit folks who thought it was fake because of the "wwws" haven't the foggiest what they're actually seeing.
     
  7. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I don't have a clue as to what you guys are talking about, but I would like to suggest that we each contact all our congresspeople and advise them of how this grassroots petition has grown legs and is going full speed ahead. We, The People, want the TSA gone!
     
  8. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    I concur on both counts. The media seems to be getting stirred up in response. I would encourage people to comment on various stories and opinion pieces out there with corrections.http://www.truth-out.org/Toward-a-Smarter-Transportation-Security-Administration1316196120, http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/09/petition_to_abo.php#Comments, etc.
     
  9. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    The signature count has just crested 20,000.

    ^
     
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  10. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The author of the Truth-Out article appears to have bought into the lie that 9/11 was a result of airport screeners making a mistake.

    Knives and boxcutters were not prohibited items at the time - and even now that they are prohibited items, the TSA misses them on a regular basis (like the ones that got through the checkpoint on 9/11/2011!)

    Nothing the TSA does today would have prevented 9/11 then. The only two changes that have occurred that make the slightest difference are 1) locking the cockpit door, and 2) having a planeload of people who're not inclined to follow orders coming from someone who claims to have some sort of weapon.
     
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  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It's getting some media coverage ....

    Press TV: Petition to abolish TSA posted on White House website

    Forbes: What The People Want: Abolishment of the TSA and Marijuana Legalization

    The petition to abolish TSA got more than that in 48 hours. :D

    Village Voice: Petition to Abolish the TSA is Doomed to Fail

    That now 20,000 and counting, you retard. Even if it fails, it succeeds -- every event like this chips away at TSA's fast-diminishing legitimacy.
     
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  12. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Barbell, if I didn't say so before, (too lazy to look), thank you very much for directing our attention to this.
     
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  13. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Aw, shucks, thanks!

    I merely stumbled on it, and am honored to be among the first 100 signers. I knew my friends here would appreciate it. When I shared it elsewhere, I was excoriated for doing something that would be ignored.

    I seriously doubt it will amount to much, but the Administration is absolutely tone deaf if they can't figure out what the growing noise on this issue means.
     
  14. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    A moment of inspiration has just struck me!

    What do we think of creating a QR Code that leads to this petition, and putting it on a sticker to placer over TSA's QR codes and on the cover of the inflight magazine? Much like the NoS flyers it could go viral...
     
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  15. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I love that idea, but people would have to be really careful about not getting caught putting the stickers up. I'd volunteer myself but I'm proud to say I haven't set foot in an airport since before scope-n-grope took hold so I don't really have an opportunity.

    Still, if we can distribute the code and get the dimensions right for the sticker...could be a good thing.
     
  16. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Has anyone else noticed that the whitehouse.gov petition threshold has been quietly increased to 25,000 "signatures," which is just slightly higher than what the TSA petition has so far received?
     
  17. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Is that on the TSA petition (it only says 5000 on the page), or future petitions?
     
  18. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The FAQ says it only applies to petitions created after a threshold change - but keep in mind that this is the same White House that has racked up a looong list of broken promises to the American public.
     
  19. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    This is where keeping good notes, and snapshots of everything so they cant wiggle out or lie about it.
     
  20. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    [feign disbelief]
    Do you really mean the folks in the White House would lie to citizens?
    Surely there is no proof of this...
    [/feign disbelief]
     

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